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	<title>Comments on: Penang Global City Center by Asymptote</title>
	<link>http://www.dezeen.com/2007/09/21/penang-global-city-center-by-asymptote/</link>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Asrul Naim</title>
		<link>http://www.dezeen.com/2007/09/21/penang-global-city-center-by-asymptote/#comment-123545</link>
		<dc:creator>Asrul Naim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 15:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.dezeen.com/2007/09/21/penang-global-city-center-by-asymptote/#comment-123545</guid>
		<description>ITS awesome,good 4 malaysian architecture scenery</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ITS awesome,good 4 malaysian architecture scenery</p>
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		<title>By: Olar</title>
		<link>http://www.dezeen.com/2007/09/21/penang-global-city-center-by-asymptote/#comment-91993</link>
		<dc:creator>Olar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.dezeen.com/2007/09/21/penang-global-city-center-by-asymptote/#comment-91993</guid>
		<description>Man should colonize other planets and build buildings like these!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man should colonize other planets and build buildings like these!</p>
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		<title>By: Jycinta</title>
		<link>http://www.dezeen.com/2007/09/21/penang-global-city-center-by-asymptote/#comment-82827</link>
		<dc:creator>Jycinta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 04:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.dezeen.com/2007/09/21/penang-global-city-center-by-asymptote/#comment-82827</guid>
		<description>So Penang's Chief Minister has sent PGCC back to the drawing board - has put down several new stipulations that mean that Patrick Lim and gang have to re-design. Or is it just an election gimmick? Will we see the same plan approved after the election? Hope not. The traffic implications are absolutely horrendous, and for those of you who know the racecourse, think of what it will mean to have 38 tower blocks (huge tower blocks) crammed in to such a small space. Then there's the argument that Patrick Lim and his companies just want to sell of the land parcels and get out of there with loads of money in the bank - all because our dear Penang state government rezoned the land in 2002 at the expense of the Penang taxpayer without cost to Lim or anyone else. Result: land value of the racecourse went up by at least fivefold. So, many people think it is all just a money-grabbing scheme. Like so many other mega projects we know and love (?). The people always pay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Penang&#8217;s Chief Minister has sent PGCC back to the drawing board - has put down several new stipulations that mean that Patrick Lim and gang have to re-design. Or is it just an election gimmick? Will we see the same plan approved after the election? Hope not. The traffic implications are absolutely horrendous, and for those of you who know the racecourse, think of what it will mean to have 38 tower blocks (huge tower blocks) crammed in to such a small space. Then there&#8217;s the argument that Patrick Lim and his companies just want to sell of the land parcels and get out of there with loads of money in the bank - all because our dear Penang state government rezoned the land in 2002 at the expense of the Penang taxpayer without cost to Lim or anyone else. Result: land value of the racecourse went up by at least fivefold. So, many people think it is all just a money-grabbing scheme. Like so many other mega projects we know and love (?). The people always pay.</p>
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		<title>By: nique</title>
		<link>http://www.dezeen.com/2007/09/21/penang-global-city-center-by-asymptote/#comment-76743</link>
		<dc:creator>nique</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 10:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.dezeen.com/2007/09/21/penang-global-city-center-by-asymptote/#comment-76743</guid>
		<description>simply ugly.. and for malaysia to build this, it will only be a nightmare to all malaysians</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>simply ugly.. and for malaysia to build this, it will only be a nightmare to all malaysians</p>
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		<title>By: Kris Khaira</title>
		<link>http://www.dezeen.com/2007/09/21/penang-global-city-center-by-asymptote/#comment-54214</link>
		<dc:creator>Kris Khaira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.dezeen.com/2007/09/21/penang-global-city-center-by-asymptote/#comment-54214</guid>
		<description>Why don't you correct me then so I can see 'crystal clear'?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why don&#8217;t you correct me then so I can see &#8216;crystal clear&#8217;?</p>
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		<title>By: SharonS</title>
		<link>http://www.dezeen.com/2007/09/21/penang-global-city-center-by-asymptote/#comment-53976</link>
		<dc:creator>SharonS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 05:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.dezeen.com/2007/09/21/penang-global-city-center-by-asymptote/#comment-53976</guid>
		<description>Shame on you Kris.  Seems you only see everything vague on PGCC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shame on you Kris.  Seems you only see everything vague on PGCC.</p>
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		<title>By: SharonS</title>
		<link>http://www.dezeen.com/2007/09/21/penang-global-city-center-by-asymptote/#comment-53971</link>
		<dc:creator>SharonS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 05:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.dezeen.com/2007/09/21/penang-global-city-center-by-asymptote/#comment-53971</guid>
		<description>"Poor Penangites and Malaysians, completely deceived by Patrick Lim, architects and politicians. Press editors bought out, put on the board of Abad Naluri, high ranking K.L. politicians involved."

That is very serious accusation.  Any proof? Otherwise your accusation is nothing but as you said 'no transparency'.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Poor Penangites and Malaysians, completely deceived by Patrick Lim, architects and politicians. Press editors bought out, put on the board of Abad Naluri, high ranking K.L. politicians involved.&#8221;</p>
<p>That is very serious accusation.  Any proof? Otherwise your accusation is nothing but as you said &#8216;no transparency&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Kris Khaira</title>
		<link>http://www.dezeen.com/2007/09/21/penang-global-city-center-by-asymptote/#comment-51492</link>
		<dc:creator>Kris Khaira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.dezeen.com/2007/09/21/penang-global-city-center-by-asymptote/#comment-51492</guid>
		<description>The towers in those 3D renderings may look good to some, but they have been rendered out of its true context. Right beside those buildings are development zones reserved for 38 high-rise towers, and those 38 towers will probably look like any other high-rise tower - tall, blocks that serve to worsen the existing excessive population density problem in Penang.

A more accurate model can be seen &lt;a href="http://www.penangwatch.net/pgcc" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.

The development proposals are also full of greenwashing and vague details. They propose flyovers and underpasses but do not state who is paying for them. Also, they advertise a "medical centre", but it's not even a clinic nor hospital. The &lt;a href="http://www.penangwatch.net/pgcc" rel="nofollow"&gt;STOP PGCC&lt;/a&gt; website has the full picture. The developers should be ashamed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The towers in those 3D renderings may look good to some, but they have been rendered out of its true context. Right beside those buildings are development zones reserved for 38 high-rise towers, and those 38 towers will probably look like any other high-rise tower - tall, blocks that serve to worsen the existing excessive population density problem in Penang.</p>
<p>A more accurate model can be seen <a href="http://www.penangwatch.net/pgcc" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
<p>The development proposals are also full of greenwashing and vague details. They propose flyovers and underpasses but do not state who is paying for them. Also, they advertise a &#8220;medical centre&#8221;, but it&#8217;s not even a clinic nor hospital. The <a href="http://www.penangwatch.net/pgcc" rel="nofollow">STOP PGCC</a> website has the full picture. The developers should be ashamed.</p>
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		<title>By: L.Lim</title>
		<link>http://www.dezeen.com/2007/09/21/penang-global-city-center-by-asymptote/#comment-51425</link>
		<dc:creator>L.Lim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.dezeen.com/2007/09/21/penang-global-city-center-by-asymptote/#comment-51425</guid>
		<description>Poor Penangites and Malaysians, completely deceived by Patrick Lim, architects and politicians. Press editors bought out, put on the board of Abad Naluri, high ranking K.L. politicians involved. No transparency, accountability or consultation with the people of Penang. A project THIS MASSIVE that will affect all our lives cannot be allowed to proceed without consultation. 

1. Not 2 iconic towers - but 37 of them, bet 42 and 60 storeys!!
2. prevailing neighbourhood densities 6 units to an acre - getting 37 units/acre!
3. Non developable hill land being calculated in the densities
4. Prevailing neighbouring height control - 2 storeys, PGCC 60 stories!
5. Prime Minister launches a project not yet approved at Municipal local level
6. Low medium cost units not provided on site, its all for the rich and famous..
7. 6933 units residential, 14 million sq ft commercial - is this what Penang needs and wants when we already have more than 1 million sq ft of empty commercial space
8. Carbon 0  : this is actually Carbon off-setting : produce the carbon in Penang, pay for carbon reduction programmes elsewhere in the world
9. Estimated 60,000 car movements a day. 27,000 car parks being provided on site - are these electric or solar powered cars to claim to be carbon 0? 
10. And the traffic !!!! Anyone in Penang can tell you how horrendous this is NOW. Imagine what this project will do.
11. Deceit - all models shown in the 'roadshow' only show Hani Rashid's 2 iconic towers. Where are the other towers? Only green park land shown
12. 30,000 jobs? How do they reach this figure? And what kind of jobs, service jobs, cleaners, etc ? We already have to import foreign labour for these jobs. Penang wants high end professional jobs not these 30,000.

and we could go on .......Penang DOES NOT need the PGCC in its already crowded city centre. SAY NO TO PGCC, send it somewhere else or scale it down very very drastically. 

Thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poor Penangites and Malaysians, completely deceived by Patrick Lim, architects and politicians. Press editors bought out, put on the board of Abad Naluri, high ranking K.L. politicians involved. No transparency, accountability or consultation with the people of Penang. A project THIS MASSIVE that will affect all our lives cannot be allowed to proceed without consultation. </p>
<p>1. Not 2 iconic towers - but 37 of them, bet 42 and 60 storeys!!<br />
2. prevailing neighbourhood densities 6 units to an acre - getting 37 units/acre!<br />
3. Non developable hill land being calculated in the densities<br />
4. Prevailing neighbouring height control - 2 storeys, PGCC 60 stories!<br />
5. Prime Minister launches a project not yet approved at Municipal local level<br />
6. Low medium cost units not provided on site, its all for the rich and famous..<br />
7. 6933 units residential, 14 million sq ft commercial - is this what Penang needs and wants when we already have more than 1 million sq ft of empty commercial space<br />
8. Carbon 0  : this is actually Carbon off-setting : produce the carbon in Penang, pay for carbon reduction programmes elsewhere in the world<br />
9. Estimated 60,000 car movements a day. 27,000 car parks being provided on site - are these electric or solar powered cars to claim to be carbon 0?<br />
10. And the traffic !!!! Anyone in Penang can tell you how horrendous this is NOW. Imagine what this project will do.<br />
11. Deceit - all models shown in the &#8216;roadshow&#8217; only show Hani Rashid&#8217;s 2 iconic towers. Where are the other towers? Only green park land shown<br />
12. 30,000 jobs? How do they reach this figure? And what kind of jobs, service jobs, cleaners, etc ? We already have to import foreign labour for these jobs. Penang wants high end professional jobs not these 30,000.</p>
<p>and we could go on &#8230;&#8230;.Penang DOES NOT need the PGCC in its already crowded city centre. SAY NO TO PGCC, send it somewhere else or scale it down very very drastically. </p>
<p>Thank you</p>
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		<title>By: SharonS</title>
		<link>http://www.dezeen.com/2007/09/21/penang-global-city-center-by-asymptote/#comment-42119</link>
		<dc:creator>SharonS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 08:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.dezeen.com/2007/09/21/penang-global-city-center-by-asymptote/#comment-42119</guid>
		<description>I love Penang too. It's the place where me and my family grown up. Yes I like the way it was but as a young student, I don't want to be left out. It is about how we should balance between moving forward and preserving our heritage.  I don't think this is a mistake. Having a development which will be benefit me and and my child in the very long run is the most important.  

My family and and my friends were from very low income family. This is an advantage for us to work and earn for our living without leaving our lovely Penang.  I am happy to know that in conjunction of this development, we are going to have lots more public facilities such as the public transportation.

Well, there will be more people come and go to Penang.  They will love to enjoy the modernisaton and the heritage we have here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love Penang too. It&#8217;s the place where me and my family grown up. Yes I like the way it was but as a young student, I don&#8217;t want to be left out. It is about how we should balance between moving forward and preserving our heritage.  I don&#8217;t think this is a mistake. Having a development which will be benefit me and and my child in the very long run is the most important.  </p>
<p>My family and and my friends were from very low income family. This is an advantage for us to work and earn for our living without leaving our lovely Penang.  I am happy to know that in conjunction of this development, we are going to have lots more public facilities such as the public transportation.</p>
<p>Well, there will be more people come and go to Penang.  They will love to enjoy the modernisaton and the heritage we have here.</p>
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