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	<title>Comments on: Aeroscraft ML866</title>
	<link>http://www.dezeen.com/2007/12/11/aeroscraft-ml866/</link>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Chris Emmett</title>
		<link>http://www.dezeen.com/2007/12/11/aeroscraft-ml866/#comment-179460</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Emmett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.dezeen.com/2007/12/11/aeroscraft-ml866/#comment-179460</guid>
		<description>Hey people of the world , What is it that makes it so different, to PLanes. You got it one. No sitting on long haul flights anymore. You can walk around or lie down, and less chance of it crashing or engine failure. Would certainly pay the money to get on one of these. Round about now is when they should put them out as most plane companies are going bust over the rising cost of fuel. This airship above would be the mummy of all Airships. Imagine dinning at one end and dancing the night away in the sky at the other end. Oh Aeroscraft hurry up please and roll out this for production.  For the people who cant afford the new Airbus this would be ten times better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey people of the world , What is it that makes it so different, to PLanes. You got it one. No sitting on long haul flights anymore. You can walk around or lie down, and less chance of it crashing or engine failure. Would certainly pay the money to get on one of these. Round about now is when they should put them out as most plane companies are going bust over the rising cost of fuel. This airship above would be the mummy of all Airships. Imagine dinning at one end and dancing the night away in the sky at the other end. Oh Aeroscraft hurry up please and roll out this for production.  For the people who cant afford the new Airbus this would be ten times better.</p>
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		<title>By: yoyo</title>
		<link>http://www.dezeen.com/2007/12/11/aeroscraft-ml866/#comment-154376</link>
		<dc:creator>yoyo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.dezeen.com/2007/12/11/aeroscraft-ml866/#comment-154376</guid>
		<description>hey it's great idea to  do tht shit boys u boys should do it... im proud at u boys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey it&#8217;s great idea to  do tht shit boys u boys should do it&#8230; im proud at u boys.</p>
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		<title>By: i will build it</title>
		<link>http://www.dezeen.com/2007/12/11/aeroscraft-ml866/#comment-122180</link>
		<dc:creator>i will build it</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 01:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.dezeen.com/2007/12/11/aeroscraft-ml866/#comment-122180</guid>
		<description>if they won't make it i don't see why we couldn't make a smaller one. could reuse the helium using it like ballasts to help stabilize it and to keep it firmly on the ground in case winds pick up. cross winds probably won't be a concern, the sides can be rounded to be aerodynamic enough to lower the drag coefficient sufficiently. new technologies in light weigh flexible solar panels are getting mainstream at only about 8% efficiency compared to solid panels at around 16% i believe, they'll mature. using lithium batteries and a small generator like a plug in hybrid and there you got the propulsion for the craft and power for the helium compressor. if one were produced privately and proved to work then larger scaled version would pop up everywhere. the RMS queen Elizabeth 2 ship has a gas mileage of about 0.009375 mile/imperial gallon. with a 1777 passenger limit its larger but a large scale of this hybrid aircraft using almost no fuel i don't see why it couldn't do better. the technology is there it just needs to get built, matured and proven to work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if they won&#8217;t make it i don&#8217;t see why we couldn&#8217;t make a smaller one. could reuse the helium using it like ballasts to help stabilize it and to keep it firmly on the ground in case winds pick up. cross winds probably won&#8217;t be a concern, the sides can be rounded to be aerodynamic enough to lower the drag coefficient sufficiently. new technologies in light weigh flexible solar panels are getting mainstream at only about 8% efficiency compared to solid panels at around 16% i believe, they&#8217;ll mature. using lithium batteries and a small generator like a plug in hybrid and there you got the propulsion for the craft and power for the helium compressor. if one were produced privately and proved to work then larger scaled version would pop up everywhere. the RMS queen Elizabeth 2 ship has a gas mileage of about 0.009375 mile/imperial gallon. with a 1777 passenger limit its larger but a large scale of this hybrid aircraft using almost no fuel i don&#8217;t see why it couldn&#8217;t do better. the technology is there it just needs to get built, matured and proven to work.</p>
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		<title>By: treehugger1213</title>
		<link>http://www.dezeen.com/2007/12/11/aeroscraft-ml866/#comment-119733</link>
		<dc:creator>treehugger1213</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 01:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.dezeen.com/2007/12/11/aeroscraft-ml866/#comment-119733</guid>
		<description>I think its a brilliant idea. Its gas efficient and is friendly to the atmosphere. I grew up wishing airships were still afloat. I thought it would be fascinating to be a crew-member</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think its a brilliant idea. Its gas efficient and is friendly to the atmosphere. I grew up wishing airships were still afloat. I thought it would be fascinating to be a crew-member</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.dezeen.com/2007/12/11/aeroscraft-ml866/#comment-115656</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.dezeen.com/2007/12/11/aeroscraft-ml866/#comment-115656</guid>
		<description>As for some of the nay-sayers:

With a deck size of over an acre it would be very easy to accomadate enough passangers to allow for travel cost that match or perhaps come in less than that of a traditional aricraft

As for parachutes I did not see any on my last flight to Russia or on the return trip so there would be no difference here

Emergency landing would seem to me to be much easier to accomidate than say a 747 which requires something like a two mile runway - this thing could land at many private runways as well as many open fields - with the possibility of taking off again - try that in a 747

Cross winds could be a problem however, someone with more knowledge of the ships aerodynamics would have to answer that - although I'm willing to bet there are very practical soulituions 

As for fuel conservation - if the ship can carry say twice the passanger load of a 747 with the same fuel comsumption then we have just made it twice as economical to fly, requiring half sa many craft in the air to carry the same amount of passangers - sounds like good savings to me</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for some of the nay-sayers:</p>
<p>With a deck size of over an acre it would be very easy to accomadate enough passangers to allow for travel cost that match or perhaps come in less than that of a traditional aricraft</p>
<p>As for parachutes I did not see any on my last flight to Russia or on the return trip so there would be no difference here</p>
<p>Emergency landing would seem to me to be much easier to accomidate than say a 747 which requires something like a two mile runway - this thing could land at many private runways as well as many open fields - with the possibility of taking off again - try that in a 747</p>
<p>Cross winds could be a problem however, someone with more knowledge of the ships aerodynamics would have to answer that - although I&#8217;m willing to bet there are very practical soulituions </p>
<p>As for fuel conservation - if the ship can carry say twice the passanger load of a 747 with the same fuel comsumption then we have just made it twice as economical to fly, requiring half sa many craft in the air to carry the same amount of passangers - sounds like good savings to me</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Townsley</title>
		<link>http://www.dezeen.com/2007/12/11/aeroscraft-ml866/#comment-112829</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Townsley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.dezeen.com/2007/12/11/aeroscraft-ml866/#comment-112829</guid>
		<description>Properly handled, hydrogen is the best lifting AND propulsion gas. Folks always remember the few minutes of tragedy at Lakehurst, while forgetting (ignoring?) the thirty-some YEARS of safe, scheduled, transcontinental transport provided by Zeppelins- without a single passenger life lost. Can you recall which thirty years the world airlines went without a single fatality?? {NO-cause there ain't none! But ya keep gettin' on those planes, don't ya?} So why the fear to get on a hydrogen-filled, spacious, quiet, environmentally-friendly, airship??

Modern materials and technology, radar, geo-sats, etc.., can all be combined to offer an alternative, SAFE transport method. Every drop of fossil fuel we use is a one-way trip closer to exhaustion (if we don't cook ourselves out of the running first).

Airships can be repaired in-flight (when's the last time you saw THAT done on a 747?). Current and near-term regenerative fuel cell technology can present a near or actual closed-loop energy system.

I just wish I had MORE disposable funds- 'cause I'd be putting the major portion of it into LTA construction....

"Up Ship!" anybody???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Properly handled, hydrogen is the best lifting AND propulsion gas. Folks always remember the few minutes of tragedy at Lakehurst, while forgetting (ignoring?) the thirty-some YEARS of safe, scheduled, transcontinental transport provided by Zeppelins- without a single passenger life lost. Can you recall which thirty years the world airlines went without a single fatality?? {NO-cause there ain&#8217;t none! But ya keep gettin&#8217; on those planes, don&#8217;t ya?} So why the fear to get on a hydrogen-filled, spacious, quiet, environmentally-friendly, airship??</p>
<p>Modern materials and technology, radar, geo-sats, etc.., can all be combined to offer an alternative, SAFE transport method. Every drop of fossil fuel we use is a one-way trip closer to exhaustion (if we don&#8217;t cook ourselves out of the running first).</p>
<p>Airships can be repaired in-flight (when&#8217;s the last time you saw THAT done on a 747?). Current and near-term regenerative fuel cell technology can present a near or actual closed-loop energy system.</p>
<p>I just wish I had MORE disposable funds- &#8217;cause I&#8217;d be putting the major portion of it into LTA construction&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8220;Up Ship!&#8221; anybody???</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Gunson, NZ</title>
		<link>http://www.dezeen.com/2007/12/11/aeroscraft-ml866/#comment-86867</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Gunson, NZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 03:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.dezeen.com/2007/12/11/aeroscraft-ml866/#comment-86867</guid>
		<description>Robert Platter is quite correct that the surface area offers the opportunity for flexible solar cells to collect power. 

Also because airships rarely fly above 17,000 feet engines could operate on biofuels rather than kerosene. 

Normally biofuel is not an option because it gells at low temperatures, but it would not affect this craft below 12,000ft.

It's fuel economics alone make it very promising</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert Platter is quite correct that the surface area offers the opportunity for flexible solar cells to collect power. </p>
<p>Also because airships rarely fly above 17,000 feet engines could operate on biofuels rather than kerosene. </p>
<p>Normally biofuel is not an option because it gells at low temperatures, but it would not affect this craft below 12,000ft.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s fuel economics alone make it very promising</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Platter</title>
		<link>http://www.dezeen.com/2007/12/11/aeroscraft-ml866/#comment-75890</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Platter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.dezeen.com/2007/12/11/aeroscraft-ml866/#comment-75890</guid>
		<description>A couple of points that occured to me while reading the comments.
Helium is one of the most common elements in the universe.  We just need to figure out where to get it from.
With a surface area as large as this thing will have, Solar power can easly provide at least part of the propulsion energy.  There will probably have to be supplemental sources, but this has a large sun visible surface that could easly be used to collect solar power.

I am concerned with how this will handle in cross winds or heavy weather.  Even though we have decent weather forecasts now and should be able to route this around bad weather, what happens if this gets trapped in an area where it can't escape.  Can it survive on the ground?  Will a hanger be needed? etc.

While this does allow point to point transport of goods to remote locations. Admitably there will always be some demand for remote access,  I don't think it has the capacity to handle LARGE counts of goods.  Maybe two containers worth.  Will this be a cost effective amount or will it be regulated to special needs. (Check passenger count if you think this will handle large weight,  Light bulky things are easy, but a large amount of heavy things probably not)

I like the idea of transportable services.  Hospitals and such.  Things that are mostly empty space.  I think libraries will bulk too much to be transportable unless they are reduced to mostly electronic form, but a moving laboratory could be very useful.

Mobile Command centers and assistance centers are also a good use.
Think Katrina.  Aid could be dropped right where it is needed.  The people directing the recovery can hover over where they are needed without leaving their command infrastructure.

Mobile radio centers for places where services are out.  It's in the air so it has a large line of sight.

Passenger use, probably not.  Maybe for the private jet set.  However, If the price was close to that of normal economy air fair, I would chose this even though it is slower.  I would enjoy the ability to move around and the space per passenger.  While not overweight, I am a large person and my shoulders are wider than the space allowed in normal economy seats.  Not to mention leg room.  I'll build in the extra day for the travel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of points that occured to me while reading the comments.<br />
Helium is one of the most common elements in the universe.  We just need to figure out where to get it from.<br />
With a surface area as large as this thing will have, Solar power can easly provide at least part of the propulsion energy.  There will probably have to be supplemental sources, but this has a large sun visible surface that could easly be used to collect solar power.</p>
<p>I am concerned with how this will handle in cross winds or heavy weather.  Even though we have decent weather forecasts now and should be able to route this around bad weather, what happens if this gets trapped in an area where it can&#8217;t escape.  Can it survive on the ground?  Will a hanger be needed? etc.</p>
<p>While this does allow point to point transport of goods to remote locations. Admitably there will always be some demand for remote access,  I don&#8217;t think it has the capacity to handle LARGE counts of goods.  Maybe two containers worth.  Will this be a cost effective amount or will it be regulated to special needs. (Check passenger count if you think this will handle large weight,  Light bulky things are easy, but a large amount of heavy things probably not)</p>
<p>I like the idea of transportable services.  Hospitals and such.  Things that are mostly empty space.  I think libraries will bulk too much to be transportable unless they are reduced to mostly electronic form, but a moving laboratory could be very useful.</p>
<p>Mobile Command centers and assistance centers are also a good use.<br />
Think Katrina.  Aid could be dropped right where it is needed.  The people directing the recovery can hover over where they are needed without leaving their command infrastructure.</p>
<p>Mobile radio centers for places where services are out.  It&#8217;s in the air so it has a large line of sight.</p>
<p>Passenger use, probably not.  Maybe for the private jet set.  However, If the price was close to that of normal economy air fair, I would chose this even though it is slower.  I would enjoy the ability to move around and the space per passenger.  While not overweight, I am a large person and my shoulders are wider than the space allowed in normal economy seats.  Not to mention leg room.  I&#8217;ll build in the extra day for the travel.</p>
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		<title>By: Rickie</title>
		<link>http://www.dezeen.com/2007/12/11/aeroscraft-ml866/#comment-75195</link>
		<dc:creator>Rickie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.dezeen.com/2007/12/11/aeroscraft-ml866/#comment-75195</guid>
		<description>Plenty of helium in the moon. Why do you think there's so much interest in going back there?
If this craft does fly, there'll be plenty of reports of UFOs!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plenty of helium in the moon. Why do you think there&#8217;s so much interest in going back there?<br />
If this craft does fly, there&#8217;ll be plenty of reports of UFOs!</p>
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		<title>By: br0d</title>
		<link>http://www.dezeen.com/2007/12/11/aeroscraft-ml866/#comment-71761</link>
		<dc:creator>br0d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 20:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.dezeen.com/2007/12/11/aeroscraft-ml866/#comment-71761</guid>
		<description>These are some fantastically sublime blimps.</description>
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