Comments on: Stick Chair by Emmanuelle Moureaux http://www.dezeen.com/2007/12/19/stick-chair-by-emmanuelle-moureaux/ architecture and design magazine Fri, 29 Aug 2008 04:49:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: yung http://www.dezeen.com/2007/12/19/stick-chair-by-emmanuelle-moureaux/#comment-67306 yung Tue, 25 Dec 2007 06:13:37 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2007/12/19/stick-chair-by-emmanuelle-moureaux/#comment-67306 this is just a thing that makes you feel: oh, maybe I can sit on that. this is just a thing that makes you feel: oh, maybe I can sit on that.

]]> By: stancoenders http://www.dezeen.com/2007/12/19/stick-chair-by-emmanuelle-moureaux/#comment-66687 stancoenders Sat, 22 Dec 2007 08:06:22 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2007/12/19/stick-chair-by-emmanuelle-moureaux/#comment-66687 just another cgair.....? it is said that study-results are more interesting than the presented results. sorry for this, but this is not a chair just another cgair…..? it is said that study-results are more interesting than the presented results. sorry for this, but this is not a chair

]]> By: johan http://www.dezeen.com/2007/12/19/stick-chair-by-emmanuelle-moureaux/#comment-66614 johan Sat, 22 Dec 2007 01:07:18 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2007/12/19/stick-chair-by-emmanuelle-moureaux/#comment-66614 that brings me back to the canvas item I posted. It was not to compare paintings with design or all that, I just wanted to point out that each designer sooner or later designs a chair. A chair has become THE item to expose the personal ideas about design. From Gaudi to the Campana's and Studio Job to Rietveld, they all made a chair im a personal way. that brings me back to the canvas item I posted.
It was not to compare paintings with design or all that, I just wanted to point out that each designer sooner or later designs a chair. A chair has become THE item to expose the personal ideas about design. From Gaudi to the Campana’s and Studio Job to Rietveld, they all made a chair im a personal way.

]]> By: johan http://www.dezeen.com/2007/12/19/stick-chair-by-emmanuelle-moureaux/#comment-66613 johan Sat, 22 Dec 2007 01:03:50 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2007/12/19/stick-chair-by-emmanuelle-moureaux/#comment-66613 you cant sit on a painting can yoiu osawa? you cant sit on a painting can yoiu osawa?

]]> By: Musser http://www.dezeen.com/2007/12/19/stick-chair-by-emmanuelle-moureaux/#comment-66608 Musser Sat, 22 Dec 2007 00:01:49 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2007/12/19/stick-chair-by-emmanuelle-moureaux/#comment-66608 I've really enjoyed reading these varied viewpoints. Many valid points. All worth consideration. I’ve really enjoyed reading these varied viewpoints. Many valid points. All worth consideration.

]]> By: osawa http://www.dezeen.com/2007/12/19/stick-chair-by-emmanuelle-moureaux/#comment-66534 osawa Fri, 21 Dec 2007 16:34:32 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2007/12/19/stick-chair-by-emmanuelle-moureaux/#comment-66534 conceptual designs are ok. but im not okay, if its on sale for more than 100buks. I think its called con-art once you have to pay more for something thats not functional, but conceptual. you cant really.... sit on a concept... at least i don't want to. conceptual designs are ok.
but im not okay, if its on sale for more than 100buks.

I think its called con-art once you have to pay more for something thats not functional, but conceptual.

you cant really…. sit on a concept… at least i don’t want to.

]]> By: alex http://www.dezeen.com/2007/12/19/stick-chair-by-emmanuelle-moureaux/#comment-66208 alex Thu, 20 Dec 2007 11:19:08 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2007/12/19/stick-chair-by-emmanuelle-moureaux/#comment-66208 I like those pieces alot, just to start with that. Besides the pictures there is an interesting explanatory text which gives the arguments in this debate. Just to mention those chairs are the result of conceptual work. I guess the intention behind that work has not been about building a chair in first place. They are more a symbol for intellectual work than some new stylish musthaves. To me a chair is an appropriate object to express the core of a design concept, which might later be adopted in an architectural design. I like those pieces alot, just to start with that. Besides the pictures there is an interesting explanatory text which gives the arguments in this debate. Just to mention those chairs are the result of conceptual work. I guess the intention behind that work has not been about building a chair in first place.
They are more a symbol for intellectual work than some new stylish musthaves. To me a chair is an appropriate object to express the core of a design concept, which might later be adopted in an architectural design.

]]> By: required name http://www.dezeen.com/2007/12/19/stick-chair-by-emmanuelle-moureaux/#comment-66198 required name Thu, 20 Dec 2007 10:12:13 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2007/12/19/stick-chair-by-emmanuelle-moureaux/#comment-66198 I think this is becoming an interesting discussion and I really hope the creator of this piece will come back and have a good read through all comments. What I think is happening with the work shown above is that there is no good reason is stated why the designer started with the project. "Prototype exhibited during the 100% Design Tokyo 2007 show to finally embody the long-thought idea. The inspiration of “stick chair” came from the “mikado”, a pick-up sticks game originating in Europe." Okay, my first question will be: why the choice of Mikado as inspiration for a chair? I don't see the reason, if there is any please state this because it can give the whole piece meaning. And I rather would read that then "a pick-up sticks game, etc" because this information doesn't add anything to the piece. If this is a long thought idea I really like to know how this brain works. As long as the designer is not capable of having a good reason to create a piece of work it will never be a good piece of work. The starting point is the most crucial point, if this is not strong it will never be good because you can't set it straight. The piece above is in my opinion a good example of this. About this being a 'concept based work' I think it would only be good if the content of the concept (what piece of work is not the result of a concept?) is of that much importance that the function of the piece shift from being a chair to being a piece that communicates an idea or thought. Then this idea or thought would needs to be strong and not like in this piece: Mikado as inspiration. I think if the designer is not able to explain why it is there like it is it is not a good piece. Describing this as a 'conceptual I think this is becoming an interesting discussion and I really hope the creator of this piece will come back and have a good read through all comments.

What I think is happening with the work shown above is that there is no good reason is stated why the designer started with the project.

“Prototype exhibited during the 100% Design Tokyo 2007 show to finally embody the long-thought idea. The inspiration of “stick chair” came from the “mikado”, a pick-up sticks game originating in Europe.”

Okay, my first question will be: why the choice of Mikado as inspiration for a chair? I don’t see the reason, if there is any please state this because it can give the whole piece meaning. And I rather would read that then “a pick-up sticks game, etc” because this information doesn’t add anything to the piece. If this is a long thought idea I really like to know how this brain works.

As long as the designer is not capable of having a good reason to create a piece of work it will never be a good piece of work. The starting point is the most crucial point, if this is not strong it will never be good because you can’t set it straight. The piece above is in my opinion a good example of this.

About this being a ‘concept based work’ I think it would only be good if the content of the concept (what piece of work is not the result of a concept?) is of that much importance that the function of the piece shift from being a chair to being a piece that communicates an idea or thought. Then this idea or thought would needs to be strong and not like in this piece: Mikado as inspiration.

I think if the designer is not able to explain why it is there like it is it is not a good piece. Describing this as a ‘conceptual

]]> By: maze http://www.dezeen.com/2007/12/19/stick-chair-by-emmanuelle-moureaux/#comment-66185 maze Thu, 20 Dec 2007 09:06:46 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2007/12/19/stick-chair-by-emmanuelle-moureaux/#comment-66185 "Is everyone supposed to design with functional, minimal aesthetic?" FBOT If your a real industrial Designer then yes. Leave the ego and expression to the Artists. “Is everyone supposed to design with functional, minimal aesthetic?”

FBOT If your a real industrial Designer then yes. Leave the ego and expression to the Artists.

]]> By: PantserFaust http://www.dezeen.com/2007/12/19/stick-chair-by-emmanuelle-moureaux/#comment-66112 PantserFaust Thu, 20 Dec 2007 01:17:55 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2007/12/19/stick-chair-by-emmanuelle-moureaux/#comment-66112 To state such a thing as 'A chair for a designer, has become what the canvas is for painters' is quite desperate. I guess Musser got it right. Furthermore, it is inappropriate to seriously compare these two disciplines in these contexts. Finally, although this chair may subjectively look good and 'new' and all that, who is it supposed to inspire or for who is it intended? I would like to know. Peace. To state such a thing as ‘A chair for a designer, has become what the canvas is for painters’ is quite desperate. I guess Musser got it right. Furthermore, it is inappropriate to seriously compare these two disciplines in these contexts. Finally, although this chair may subjectively look good and ‘new’ and all that, who is it supposed to inspire or for who is it intended? I would like to know.
Peace.

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