Comments on: Construction of Linked Hybrid by Steven Holl http://www.dezeen.com/2008/03/06/construction-of-linked-hybrid-by-steven-holl/ architecture and design magazine Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:20:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: ian ethan vloke-wurth http://www.dezeen.com/2008/03/06/construction-of-linked-hybrid-by-steven-holl/comment-page-1/#comment-118923 ian ethan vloke-wurth Wed, 30 Apr 2008 00:13:21 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2008/03/06/construction-of-linked-hybrid-by-steven-holl/#comment-118923 I love this building. Beautiful. I love this building. Beautiful.

]]> By: criticalregionalism? http://www.dezeen.com/2008/03/06/construction-of-linked-hybrid-by-steven-holl/comment-page-1/#comment-111510 criticalregionalism? Fri, 11 Apr 2008 21:51:42 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2008/03/06/construction-of-linked-hybrid-by-steven-holl/#comment-111510 Where is Mr. Holl building this project? I thought it was in ancient Beijing? Is he too, descrating the former imperial city --turning it into a western market-high-capitalism city? Where is Mr. Holl building this project? I thought it was in ancient Beijing? Is he too, descrating the former imperial city –turning it into a western market-high-capitalism city?

]]> By: perplexed and disappointed http://www.dezeen.com/2008/03/06/construction-of-linked-hybrid-by-steven-holl/comment-page-1/#comment-106185 perplexed and disappointed Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:41:33 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2008/03/06/construction-of-linked-hybrid-by-steven-holl/#comment-106185 I find the entire complex disappointing. From the massing, to the bridges, to the articulation of the elevations, to the figure/ground relationship, to the colors, to the lack of contextualism, it speaks of a global disaster on many levels. I don't believe this project should be applauded on any level. It is definately Mr. Holl's 'worse' project to date, and should not be seen as an example of subtlety, or an example for students whether in school -- or practioners out of school as an example to follow. Why are these things going on in the name of either architecture or culture? I find the entire complex disappointing. From the massing, to the bridges, to the articulation of the elevations, to the figure/ground relationship, to the colors, to the lack of contextualism, it speaks of a global disaster on many levels. I don’t believe this project should be applauded on any level. It is definately Mr. Holl’s ‘worse’ project to date, and should not be seen as an example of subtlety, or an example for students whether in school — or practioners out of school as an example to follow. Why are these things going on in the name of either architecture or culture?

]]> By: JuiceMajor² http://www.dezeen.com/2008/03/06/construction-of-linked-hybrid-by-steven-holl/comment-page-1/#comment-98167 JuiceMajor² Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:39:18 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2008/03/06/construction-of-linked-hybrid-by-steven-holl/#comment-98167 I didn't realise this was going to be built!! So far so interesting! Can't believe all this architect have the luck to design something like that and get it built. In the long run, it will be one off those brutalist building we see doted around UK because of modernisation. History do repeats itself! I didn’t realise this was going to be built!! So far so interesting! Can’t believe all this architect have the luck to design something like that and get it built. In the long run, it will be one off those brutalist building we see doted around UK because of modernisation. History do repeats itself!

]]> By: Trevor Patt http://www.dezeen.com/2008/03/06/construction-of-linked-hybrid-by-steven-holl/comment-page-1/#comment-97960 Trevor Patt Wed, 12 Mar 2008 00:01:39 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2008/03/06/construction-of-linked-hybrid-by-steven-holl/#comment-97960 Or not enough of a chaos. Only one path all the way around, why not more of the 'around, over, and through'? Montaged space and unexpected turns change one's point of view more than 'elevator jump-cuts,' which have just never been quick enough or disjunctive enough to work. Still I like the project, and the colored glows, mists, and projections will probably produce an amazing affect. I have to agree with Vince, though, about the likelihood of the social lifespan of the project. Maybe not though, maybe it will prove deeply resonant, maybe a new set of bridges will be built and woven in in-between, maybe bridges will leap across to other properties? Or not enough of a chaos. Only one path all the way around, why not more of the ‘around, over, and through’? Montaged space and unexpected turns change one’s point of view more than ‘elevator jump-cuts,’ which have just never been quick enough or disjunctive enough to work. Still I like the project, and the colored glows, mists, and projections will probably produce an amazing affect. I have to agree with Vince, though, about the likelihood of the social lifespan of the project. Maybe not though, maybe it will prove deeply resonant, maybe a new set of bridges will be built and woven in in-between, maybe bridges will leap across to other properties?

]]> By: M http://www.dezeen.com/2008/03/06/construction-of-linked-hybrid-by-steven-holl/comment-page-1/#comment-97938 M Tue, 11 Mar 2008 23:09:11 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2008/03/06/construction-of-linked-hybrid-by-steven-holl/#comment-97938 Program design will determine whether this project succeeds or fails. The idea of public realms connected in the air has worked fanastically over the years in Hong Kong - because it often contained shopping related program, amenities, etc. Europeans tend to prefer on the ground shopping and prefers the outdoors, whilst more in common with low density living. Asians seem to enjoy the idea of being artificially sheltered - which means this project will probably work successfully. Program design will determine whether this project succeeds or fails. The idea of public realms connected in the air has worked fanastically over the years in Hong Kong – because it often contained shopping related program, amenities, etc. Europeans tend to prefer on the ground shopping and prefers the outdoors, whilst more in common with low density living. Asians seem to enjoy the idea of being artificially sheltered – which means this project will probably work successfully.

]]> By: maaike http://www.dezeen.com/2008/03/06/construction-of-linked-hybrid-by-steven-holl/comment-page-1/#comment-97732 maaike Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:37:59 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2008/03/06/construction-of-linked-hybrid-by-steven-holl/#comment-97732 The idea is nice, but I think it isn't worked out very good. It's too much of a chaos, I think. The idea is nice, but I think it isn’t worked out very good. It’s too much of a chaos, I think.

]]> By: Vince B http://www.dezeen.com/2008/03/06/construction-of-linked-hybrid-by-steven-holl/comment-page-1/#comment-97496 Vince B Tue, 11 Mar 2008 02:24:05 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2008/03/06/construction-of-linked-hybrid-by-steven-holl/#comment-97496 Agree with Keith. The bridges should not be seen as connections but as part of the commercial-leisure layer of the +-23rd floor. Ok it's funny, ok it looks impressive. Do you think people living in the lower floors will reach the upper floor for this. Well actually why not during the long and coooold winter of Beijing. The question is how long this will fit the way of life of the era chinese are in now? Will not this become obsolete in few decades? Because it's a moment of great excitement and discover of individual wealth for lot of urban families... and so versatile needs. I can't avoid to imagine a ghost arcade in few years... brrrr Anyway, the inner street of the Unite is still there! Agree with Keith.
The bridges should not be seen as connections but as part of the commercial-leisure layer of the +-23rd floor.
Ok it’s funny, ok it looks impressive. Do you think people living in the lower floors will reach the upper floor for this. Well actually why not during the long and coooold winter of Beijing.
The question is how long this will fit the way of life of the era chinese are in now? Will not this become obsolete in few decades? Because it’s a moment of great excitement and discover of individual wealth for lot of urban families… and so versatile needs. I can’t avoid to imagine a ghost arcade in few years… brrrr
Anyway, the inner street of the Unite is still there!

]]> By: luis miguel http://www.dezeen.com/2008/03/06/construction-of-linked-hybrid-by-steven-holl/comment-page-1/#comment-96401 luis miguel Sat, 08 Mar 2008 01:08:31 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2008/03/06/construction-of-linked-hybrid-by-steven-holl/#comment-96401 no, no, no, no, esto es horrible. donde esta el steven holl de kiasma. horribleeeeeeee no, no, no, no, esto es horrible.

donde esta el steven holl de kiasma.

horribleeeeeeee

]]> By: Keith L http://www.dezeen.com/2008/03/06/construction-of-linked-hybrid-by-steven-holl/comment-page-1/#comment-96332 Keith L Fri, 07 Mar 2008 22:20:12 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2008/03/06/construction-of-linked-hybrid-by-steven-holl/#comment-96332 I do like the design, however, I think the jury will still be out well after the building’s completion as to how the bridges will actually work. People have already mentioned similar features in other situations functioning in less than ideal manner, but I think since Holl’s bridges embody different communal programs they more closely resemble the shopping arcade in Corb’s Unité d'Habitation in Marseille. As some would say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions, neither the shopping arcade nor the Unité as a whole worked as it was originally intended. The same thing may happen here, but if the socioeconomic setting had anything to do with the Unité’s failings, then, perhaps it is with some cynicism that I must acknowledge, this 21st century recast of the same theme may work due to the petit-bourgeoisie and bourgeoisie who will inhabit this housing complex. I do like the design, however, I think the jury will still be out well after the building’s completion as to how the bridges will actually work. People have already mentioned similar features in other situations functioning in less than ideal manner, but I think since Holl’s bridges embody different communal programs they more closely resemble the shopping arcade in Corb’s Unité d’Habitation in Marseille. As some would say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions, neither the shopping arcade nor the Unité as a whole worked as it was originally intended. The same thing may happen here, but if the socioeconomic setting had anything to do with the Unité’s failings, then, perhaps it is with some cynicism that I must acknowledge, this 21st century recast of the same theme may work due to the petit-bourgeoisie and bourgeoisie who will inhabit this housing complex.

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