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	<title>Comments on: Helsinki Waterfront Hotel by Herzog &amp; de Meuron</title>
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	<link>http://www.dezeen.com/2008/04/07/helsinki-waterfront-hotel-by-herzog-de-meuron/</link>
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		<title>By: a finnish architect</title>
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		<dc:creator>a finnish architect</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 13:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...and we still have this &quot;such a beautiful place&quot; here, which is actually just a parking lot! The site is a totally depressing dark, windy and rainy place most of the year. 
I really hope they could find something even close as fine architecture as Herzog&amp;deMeuron would have brought to us in that place. 
Not just another &quot;proud to be finnish&quot;-example architecture like the new boring and corporate looking concert building Musiikkitalo. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and we still have this &quot;such a beautiful place&quot; here, which is actually just a parking lot! The site is a totally depressing dark, windy and rainy place most of the year.<br />
I really hope they could find something even close as fine architecture as Herzog&amp;deMeuron would have brought to us in that place.<br />
Not just another &quot;proud to be finnish&quot;-example architecture like the new boring and corporate looking concert building Musiikkitalo.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://www.dezeen.com/2008/04/07/helsinki-waterfront-hotel-by-herzog-de-meuron/comment-page-1/#comment-535622</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 05:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m Australian and have just come back from a holiday to Finland and am so happy this building never got built. We stayed in Katajanokka and walked past this exact spot every day we were there, I can guarantee this building would have ruined the whole area. I hope nothing like this ever gets put in such a beautiful place. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m Australian and have just come back from a holiday to Finland and am so happy this building never got built. We stayed in Katajanokka and walked past this exact spot every day we were there, I can guarantee this building would have ruined the whole area. I hope nothing like this ever gets put in such a beautiful place.</p>
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		<title>By: sw</title>
		<link>http://www.dezeen.com/2008/04/07/helsinki-waterfront-hotel-by-herzog-de-meuron/comment-page-1/#comment-420347</link>
		<dc:creator>sw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 14:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nop, they haven&#039;t even started to build it yet and if you read the latest news, it looks like they&#039;ll never ever built it:
http://www.hs.fi/english/article/Helsinki+City+Council+rejects+Katajanokka+hotel+project+at+heated+meeting/1135255950182</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nop, they haven&#8217;t even started to build it yet and if you read the latest news, it looks like they&#8217;ll never ever built it:<br />
<a href="http://www.hs.fi/english/article/Helsinki+City+Council+rejects+Katajanokka+hotel+project+at+heated+meeting/1135255950182" rel="nofollow">http://www.hs.fi/english/article/Helsinki+City+Council+rejects+Katajanokka+hotel+project+at+heated+meeting/1135255950182</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.dezeen.com/2008/04/07/helsinki-waterfront-hotel-by-herzog-de-meuron/comment-page-1/#comment-370319</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 18:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The hotel is due to open in 2010&quot;.. So is it open yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The hotel is due to open in 2010&#8243;.. So is it open yet?</p>
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		<title>By: Pekka</title>
		<link>http://www.dezeen.com/2008/04/07/helsinki-waterfront-hotel-by-herzog-de-meuron/comment-page-1/#comment-329551</link>
		<dc:creator>Pekka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 11:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The head of the Helsinki city planning committee Tuomas Rajaj&#228;rvi had a 3d-model made. He tries to prove to us, with this model of blank elements, that the building would not be so awful, that it is not too big and it still suits the landscape, and so on.

And again, this pathetic model http://www.ksv.hel.fi/katajanokka3d/ misses the central point. It still censures a crucial view from decision makers and from citizens as it does not show the real view from the sea and from the direction of the famous 18th century sea bastion island Suomenlinna in front of Helsinki. It’s obvious this building would destroy the national heritage landscape of this white empire city opening from the sea with beautiful profile and unique empire city blocks.

Herzog and de Meuron, back off, please! I guess you don&#039;t really want a reputation for ruining unique national heritages in EU with your buildings. I think almost every architect and city planner in Finland is against this project. This isn’t just normal spirit of opposition against “new things”, we have plenty of unprejudiced examples. There just are too many objective reasons against this project. As a Finnish citizen I am really ashamed of this alliance between international hotel business city bureaucracy and global architectural firm which seems to skip all the views of aesthetic professionals, international and Finnish ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The head of the Helsinki city planning committee Tuomas Rajaj&auml;rvi had a 3d-model made. He tries to prove to us, with this model of blank elements, that the building would not be so awful, that it is not too big and it still suits the landscape, and so on.</p>
<p>And again, this pathetic model <a href="http://www.ksv.hel.fi/katajanokka3d/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ksv.hel.fi/katajanokka3d/</a> misses the central point. It still censures a crucial view from decision makers and from citizens as it does not show the real view from the sea and from the direction of the famous 18th century sea bastion island Suomenlinna in front of Helsinki. It’s obvious this building would destroy the national heritage landscape of this white empire city opening from the sea with beautiful profile and unique empire city blocks.</p>
<p>Herzog and de Meuron, back off, please! I guess you don&#8217;t really want a reputation for ruining unique national heritages in EU with your buildings. I think almost every architect and city planner in Finland is against this project. This isn’t just normal spirit of opposition against “new things”, we have plenty of unprejudiced examples. There just are too many objective reasons against this project. As a Finnish citizen I am really ashamed of this alliance between international hotel business city bureaucracy and global architectural firm which seems to skip all the views of aesthetic professionals, international and Finnish ones.</p>
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