Comments on: Wood Work by Karen Ryan http://www.dezeen.com/2008/05/01/wood-work-by-karen-ryan/ architecture and design magazine Mon, 06 Oct 2008 13:36:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Dguy http://www.dezeen.com/2008/05/01/wood-work-by-karen-ryan/#comment-122325 Dguy Thu, 08 May 2008 09:53:20 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2008/05/01/wood-work-by-karen-ryan/#comment-122325 Dude, all I need now is a chop/ band saw, heat gun and wire!--And Im famouse! (But I like it in a perverse, distorted- non design way!) Dude, all I need now is a chop/ band saw, heat gun and wire!–And Im famouse!

(But I like it in a perverse, distorted- non design way!)

]]> By: SofusGraae http://www.dezeen.com/2008/05/01/wood-work-by-karen-ryan/#comment-121599 SofusGraae Tue, 06 May 2008 15:04:19 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2008/05/01/wood-work-by-karen-ryan/#comment-121599 @IJ: Well congrats - with a t-shirt like that it sure makes you the clear minded here. I am not going to lecture you what it mean to debate on a blog - but I am sure you grasp the concept since you are doing it as well. The concept of being threatened in this context is far from having any truth to it - since the majority of the people criticizing the work feels unprovoked in any sense and feels more that another 20 second time waste has hit them. Sure we could have looked at the post picture on the front page and decided if this was something we desired to engage in. @IJ: Well congrats - with a t-shirt like that it sure makes you the clear minded here. I am not going to lecture you what it mean to debate on a blog - but I am sure you grasp the concept since you are doing it as well. The concept of being threatened in this context is far from having any truth to it - since the majority of the people criticizing the work feels unprovoked in any sense and feels more that another 20 second time waste has hit them. Sure we could have looked at the post picture on the front page and decided if this was something we desired to engage in.

]]> By: selina http://www.dezeen.com/2008/05/01/wood-work-by-karen-ryan/#comment-121594 selina Tue, 06 May 2008 14:52:16 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2008/05/01/wood-work-by-karen-ryan/#comment-121594 i think the previous work show by Karen Ryan was much more compelling and interesting.. but with this here i must say.. it drives me a bit nuts if people call this piece here art. it can be whatever but don't call it art just because it has something "unintentional" or "surprisingly" in it. its not about fearing art, its about the definition of art. furthermore i wanna say that this forum here works as a platform for discussion - for positive as well as critical content. and what happens here sometimes is that people are neglecting the critical part and praising the own fake openness towards art just because they don't understand. i think the previous work show by Karen Ryan was much more compelling and interesting.. but with this here i must say.. it drives me a bit nuts if people call this piece here art. it can be whatever but don’t call it art just because it has something “unintentional” or “surprisingly” in it.
its not about fearing art, its about the definition of art.
furthermore i wanna say that this forum here works as a platform for discussion - for positive as well as critical content. and what happens here sometimes is that people are neglecting the critical part and praising the own fake openness towards art just because they don’t understand.

]]> By: georgia http://www.dezeen.com/2008/05/01/wood-work-by-karen-ryan/#comment-121262 georgia Mon, 05 May 2008 20:34:03 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2008/05/01/wood-work-by-karen-ryan/#comment-121262 Yip! I rather not have an opinion but just believe in a T-shirt slogan....doh! Yip!

I rather not have an opinion but just believe in a T-shirt slogan….doh!

]]> By: IJ http://www.dezeen.com/2008/05/01/wood-work-by-karen-ryan/#comment-121194 IJ Mon, 05 May 2008 16:27:47 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2008/05/01/wood-work-by-karen-ryan/#comment-121194 To all the critiques, I happen to own a T-shirt that reads "Fear No Art". Are you so threatened that you need to call it trash, nonsense, etc. Well, just because you weren't inspired, doesn't mean that others weren't. If you can do better, PLEASE DO! Soooooooooooo FEAR NO ART! To all the critiques,
I happen to own a T-shirt that reads “Fear No Art”. Are you so threatened that you need to call it trash, nonsense, etc. Well, just because you weren’t inspired, doesn’t mean that others weren’t. If you can do better, PLEASE DO! Soooooooooooo FEAR NO ART!

]]> By: georgia http://www.dezeen.com/2008/05/01/wood-work-by-karen-ryan/#comment-121005 georgia Mon, 05 May 2008 07:34:48 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2008/05/01/wood-work-by-karen-ryan/#comment-121005 Sadly, I feel indifferent... This is so unfamiliar of Karen's past projects, "custom made" and "second hand", both beautiful and compelling (r.e.)viewing. We can all have all have moments of madness... I know I do but I would rather keep mine on the page. However, I guess Karen is doing something right, from the number of responses she's receiving. Zaha Hadid paintings? Someone have the decency to tell her to stick to architecture. Sadly, I feel indifferent…

This is so unfamiliar of Karen’s past projects, “custom made” and “second hand”, both beautiful and compelling (r.e.)viewing.

We can all have all have moments of madness… I know I do but I would rather keep mine on the page. However, I guess Karen is doing something right, from the number of responses she’s receiving.

Zaha Hadid paintings? Someone have the decency to tell her to stick to architecture.

]]> By: selina http://www.dezeen.com/2008/05/01/wood-work-by-karen-ryan/#comment-120732 selina Sun, 04 May 2008 19:22:40 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2008/05/01/wood-work-by-karen-ryan/#comment-120732 wow well for me to compare this piece of leftovers composed together with zaha's paintings is a HUGE insult to zaha's work. her paintings are amazing in terms of use of perspective and deformation. this piece surely has its right to exist but it stands in a complete different light. still i am missing the overall intention. wow well for me to compare this piece of leftovers composed together with zaha’s paintings is a HUGE insult to zaha’s work. her paintings are amazing in terms of use of perspective and deformation. this piece surely has its right to exist but it stands in a complete different light. still i am missing the overall intention.

]]> By: SofusGraae http://www.dezeen.com/2008/05/01/wood-work-by-karen-ryan/#comment-120731 SofusGraae Sun, 04 May 2008 19:17:49 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2008/05/01/wood-work-by-karen-ryan/#comment-120731 I find the idea interesting but perhaps a bit too close to what german artist http://www.daimgallery.com/ and http://www.loomit.de does in terms of color, shape and dynamics - the lights added to the piece makes it look incomplete and as if the artist was in a hurry to finish it off. It's hardly a piece worth debating and definitely not a piece worth of typing a comment to... but here they both are anyway. I find the idea interesting but perhaps a bit too close to what german artist http://www.daimgallery.com/ and http://www.loomit.de does in terms of color, shape and dynamics - the lights added to the piece makes it look incomplete and as if the artist was in a hurry to finish it off. It’s hardly a piece worth debating and definitely not a piece worth of typing a comment to… but here they both are anyway.

]]> By: gisli http://www.dezeen.com/2008/05/01/wood-work-by-karen-ryan/#comment-120245 gisli Sat, 03 May 2008 05:55:02 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2008/05/01/wood-work-by-karen-ryan/#comment-120245 I wouldn't even give this a penny of the credit Zaha Hadid deserves for her early work like "The Peak." That was a relatively founded investigation for which she did numerous paintings and interpretations in a somewhat coherent standard. This, on the other hand, is just a scrap model; not even a good one. I see no rigor, hierarchy, or any other indication that it was anything but taking a few months worth of large scraps and screwing them together. If she had simply said "It's just shit that I put together that looks kind of cool," I would give her much more respect. But this is just applied meaning at work. Completely insignificant. I wouldn’t even give this a penny of the credit Zaha Hadid deserves for her early work like “The Peak.” That was a relatively founded investigation for which she did numerous paintings and interpretations in a somewhat coherent standard.

This, on the other hand, is just a scrap model; not even a good one. I see no rigor, hierarchy, or any other indication that it was anything but taking a few months worth of large scraps and screwing them together.

If she had simply said “It’s just shit that I put together that looks kind of cool,” I would give her much more respect. But this is just applied meaning at work. Completely insignificant.

]]> By: rt http://www.dezeen.com/2008/05/01/wood-work-by-karen-ryan/#comment-120007 rt Fri, 02 May 2008 15:29:05 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2008/05/01/wood-work-by-karen-ryan/#comment-120007 This is the kind of crap that won't go away if people keep covering it, it really is the kind of stuff the design community should never give a second look at... there's nothing clever about piling up useless materials in a useless way and shining a light on it because it makes shadows and reflections. She's really just created more of "The accidental; the unwanted; the discarded" and added a title. This is the kind of crap that won’t go away if people keep covering it, it really is the kind of stuff the design community should never give a second look at… there’s nothing clever about piling up useless materials in a useless way and shining a light on it because it makes shadows and reflections. She’s really just created more of “The accidental; the unwanted; the discarded” and added a title.

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