Comments on: Veil by Paul Cocksedge http://www.dezeen.com/2008/05/13/veil-by-paul-cocksedge/ architecture and design magazine Sat, 22 Nov 2008 09:19:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Justina http://www.dezeen.com/2008/05/13/veil-by-paul-cocksedge/#comment-127580 Justina Wed, 21 May 2008 01:49:35 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2008/05/13/veil-by-paul-cocksedge/#comment-127580 When was design estranged from art or technology? Isn't it one in the same? I believe this object proves it ...Fling. When was design estranged from art or technology? Isn’t it one in the same? I believe this object proves it …Fling.

]]> By: Will http://www.dezeen.com/2008/05/13/veil-by-paul-cocksedge/#comment-124618 Will Wed, 14 May 2008 10:50:24 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2008/05/13/veil-by-paul-cocksedge/#comment-124618 Paolo, thanks for disagreeing with me- lets agree to disagree- I would opinion that this is in the same vein as Artist Mark Wallinger's ' Time and Relative Dimensions in Space'. 'Artist do not take client projects' er.. since when Paolo? Artists call them 'Patrons'. Examples - Chapman bros (product graphic), Beleschenko(Architectural installations), even Tracey Emin(Fashion design) Paolo, thanks for disagreeing with me- lets agree to disagree-

I would opinion that this is in the same vein as Artist Mark Wallinger’s
‘ Time and Relative Dimensions in Space’.

‘Artist do not take client projects’ er.. since when Paolo?

Artists call them ‘Patrons’.

Examples - Chapman bros (product graphic), Beleschenko(Architectural installations), even Tracey Emin(Fashion design)

]]> By: jek http://www.dezeen.com/2008/05/13/veil-by-paul-cocksedge/#comment-124596 jek Wed, 14 May 2008 09:52:41 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2008/05/13/veil-by-paul-cocksedge/#comment-124596 this is great, its not clear how it works and I like that. Interesting. Actually to me this debate about the chosen iconic image is pointless, if no-one had told me that was the Mona Lisa, I probably wouldn't have even noticed, ha-ha. Its a cool trick that could develop into something much more interesting should Mr P Cocksedge want to take it further. I'd like to see it developed further. this is great, its not clear how it works and I like that. Interesting. Actually to me this debate about the chosen iconic image is pointless, if no-one had told me that was the Mona Lisa, I probably wouldn’t have even noticed, ha-ha. Its a cool trick that could develop into something much more interesting should Mr P Cocksedge want to take it further. I’d like to see it developed further.

]]> By: PAOLO http://www.dezeen.com/2008/05/13/veil-by-paul-cocksedge/#comment-124451 PAOLO Tue, 13 May 2008 23:20:33 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2008/05/13/veil-by-paul-cocksedge/#comment-124451 Thats a piece of design and definately not a piece of art Will. Artist do not take client projects. Designers do. When we speak about design we do not necessarily refer to product design. Thats a piece of design and definately not a piece of art Will. Artist do not take client projects. Designers do. When we speak about design we do not necessarily refer to product design.

]]> By: blank http://www.dezeen.com/2008/05/13/veil-by-paul-cocksedge/#comment-124408 blank Tue, 13 May 2008 21:51:45 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2008/05/13/veil-by-paul-cocksedge/#comment-124408 I Don't know, John Maeda did something similar with Pantone pens and the Mona Lisa. If you didn't recognise it instantly then the 'trick' would be lost in the time taken to figure out what the image was. Really clever installation. It's creative. Not art or design but simply creative. The crystal palace is a branding exercise (same as Bisazza), showcasing creativity and crystal within the confines of a design fair. I Don’t know, John Maeda did something similar with Pantone pens and the Mona Lisa. If you didn’t recognise it instantly then the ‘trick’ would be lost in the time taken to figure out what the image was. Really clever installation. It’s creative. Not art or design but simply creative.

The crystal palace is a branding exercise (same as Bisazza), showcasing creativity and crystal within the confines of a design fair.

]]> By: Bonzo http://www.dezeen.com/2008/05/13/veil-by-paul-cocksedge/#comment-124390 Bonzo Tue, 13 May 2008 21:19:13 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2008/05/13/veil-by-paul-cocksedge/#comment-124390 Fling has a point - why pick an image as naff as the mona lisa? its because it is neither art nor design - it's a facination with a technique, and the artist/designer has not managed to rise above the basic knowledge to really originate. Its a showcase for a process. Fling has a point - why pick an image as naff as the mona lisa? its because it is neither art nor design - it’s a facination with a technique, and the artist/designer has not managed to rise above the basic knowledge to really originate. Its a showcase for a process.

]]> By: Will http://www.dezeen.com/2008/05/13/veil-by-paul-cocksedge/#comment-124372 Will Tue, 13 May 2008 20:18:12 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2008/05/13/veil-by-paul-cocksedge/#comment-124372 Its Art- not Design-Art thankfully Best thing at Crystal Palace Its Art- not Design-Art thankfully

Best thing at Crystal Palace

]]> By: PAOLO http://www.dezeen.com/2008/05/13/veil-by-paul-cocksedge/#comment-124289 PAOLO Tue, 13 May 2008 16:49:03 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2008/05/13/veil-by-paul-cocksedge/#comment-124289 Nobody said that this is a product Fling. People nowadays can not accept this marriage between art and design but come on guys, a product does not have to be just a functional piece. It can very well be a statement piece. Art is creation so design. Two different disciplines but perceiving a product as a piece of art, makes the product more valuable and unique instead of another one sterile product that a machine created millions of times. Nobody said that this is a product Fling. People nowadays can not accept this marriage between art and design but come on guys, a product does not have to be just a functional piece. It can very well be a statement piece. Art is creation so design. Two different disciplines but perceiving a product as a piece of art, makes the product more valuable and unique instead of another one sterile product that a machine created millions of times.

]]> By: Fling http://www.dezeen.com/2008/05/13/veil-by-paul-cocksedge/#comment-124275 Fling Tue, 13 May 2008 16:20:31 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2008/05/13/veil-by-paul-cocksedge/#comment-124275 Woooahh! Like the Da Vince code. The Mona Lisa was a man, y'know. But I would say that this isn't design. Its a kind of art. The same kind of art where you can get the image of a sailing ship 3d etched internally into a block of perspex, ie. tacky. Woooahh! Like the Da Vince code. The Mona Lisa was a man, y’know. But I would say that this isn’t design. Its a kind of art. The same kind of art where you can get the image of a sailing ship 3d etched internally into a block of perspex, ie. tacky.

]]> By: PAOLO http://www.dezeen.com/2008/05/13/veil-by-paul-cocksedge/#comment-124220 PAOLO Tue, 13 May 2008 14:22:32 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2008/05/13/veil-by-paul-cocksedge/#comment-124220 Well I was thinking of something similar as well. It cant be magic :) but the fact that everyone is trying to give an answer to this "mystery" makes this design more and more interesting. Great work though!!! Well I was thinking of something similar as well. It cant be magic :) but the fact that everyone is trying to give an answer to this “mystery” makes this design more and more interesting. Great work though!!!

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