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	<title>Comments on: Aviary by group8 with Guscetti &amp; Tournier structural engineering</title>
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		<title>By: Keith Siu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith Siu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 02:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can anybody tell me what mesh they use for the perimeter?</description>
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		<title>By: xtiaan</title>
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		<dc:creator>xtiaan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 07:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>word up acevedo

upsidedown gaudi type sagrada de familia model, nice

presumably the birds need a roof cos they are hanging out on tubular steel all day which lacks the protecton given by real tress with leaves and stuff.
So why not give the poor fakkers some trees?!!!

I think Swiss architects group8  should have to live 6 months in their enviroment to see if it works, after all the cosmetics industry can no longer resort to animal testing, why should architects be any different?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>word up acevedo</p>
<p>upsidedown gaudi type sagrada de familia model, nice</p>
<p>presumably the birds need a roof cos they are hanging out on tubular steel all day which lacks the protecton given by real tress with leaves and stuff.<br />
So why not give the poor fakkers some trees?!!!</p>
<p>I think Swiss architects group8  should have to live 6 months in their enviroment to see if it works, after all the cosmetics industry can no longer resort to animal testing, why should architects be any different?</p>
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		<title>By: gaque</title>
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		<dc:creator>gaque</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 23:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is great. but i agree with the concrete roof comment...its just too much of a shadow.

steel seems like a bad choice. why not wood?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is great. but i agree with the concrete roof comment&#8230;its just too much of a shadow.</p>
<p>steel seems like a bad choice. why not wood?</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so they don&#039;t fly out, silly. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so they don&#8217;t fly out, silly. <img src='http://www.dezeen.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ciao Ciao</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ciao Ciao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The most important, who&#039;s the man next to the tree???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most important, who&#8217;s the man next to the tree???</p>
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		<title>By: the big black &#38; white zebra</title>
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		<dc:creator>the big black &#38; white zebra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 08:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice one....
Elegant trees but why the roof?...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice one&#8230;.<br />
Elegant trees but why the roof?&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: leandro locsin</title>
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		<dc:creator>leandro locsin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 06:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>whoa!  branches in tubular steel!! how animal-friendly is that ?

you can fool a bird&#039;s eyes, but you can never full the sense of touch of its claws.

for birds, its agonizing enough to be trapped in a net, how do you expect them to be happy with steel ??  if  the bed in your home is made out of cotton, imagine that a bird&#039;s bed is a branch of hard steel that is stiff, doesnt move with the wind, etc. 

i get the freakin idea of randomness, how the weight is transferred beautifully, but lets not test this idea on animals man!

arent we happy we are not birds?

this such a cold architecture.  man in its greatest state of foolishness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whoa!  branches in tubular steel!! how animal-friendly is that ?</p>
<p>you can fool a bird&#8217;s eyes, but you can never full the sense of touch of its claws.</p>
<p>for birds, its agonizing enough to be trapped in a net, how do you expect them to be happy with steel ??  if  the bed in your home is made out of cotton, imagine that a bird&#8217;s bed is a branch of hard steel that is stiff, doesnt move with the wind, etc. </p>
<p>i get the freakin idea of randomness, how the weight is transferred beautifully, but lets not test this idea on animals man!</p>
<p>arent we happy we are not birds?</p>
<p>this such a cold architecture.  man in its greatest state of foolishness.</p>
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		<title>By: cpcp</title>
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		<dc:creator>cpcp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the difficult ethical issue of caging, putting animals in a container partially for the pleasure of the visitors, and that of creating a nature-simulator in order to reproduce some kind of natural-like environment&quot;

-  continuous/seamless wire walls - nice
-  branch like supporting structure - great! 
- concrete roof?  WHY WHY WHY??? what a huge solid shadow this will create.  and how dark will the cieleing be for the birds. what about some kind of perforated steel sheet panels to let the light shine through?  like a leaf like pattern or something.  even something like this
http://www.dezeen.com/2008/07/09/technicolor-bloom-by-brennan-buck/ which would help shape the roofing, and creat an interesting shadow over the walkways....  feeling much more like walking through a forest

why why why....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the difficult ethical issue of caging, putting animals in a container partially for the pleasure of the visitors, and that of creating a nature-simulator in order to reproduce some kind of natural-like environment&#8221;</p>
<p>-  continuous/seamless wire walls &#8211; nice<br />
-  branch like supporting structure &#8211; great!<br />
- concrete roof?  WHY WHY WHY??? what a huge solid shadow this will create.  and how dark will the cieleing be for the birds. what about some kind of perforated steel sheet panels to let the light shine through?  like a leaf like pattern or something.  even something like this<br />
<a href="http://www.dezeen.com/2008/07/09/technicolor-bloom-by-brennan-buck/" rel="nofollow">http://www.dezeen.com/2008/07/09/technicolor-bloom-by-brennan-buck/</a> which would help shape the roofing, and creat an interesting shadow over the walkways&#8230;.  feeling much more like walking through a forest</p>
<p>why why why&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: acevedo</title>
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		<dc:creator>acevedo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its nice to see some gaudi reemergence.</description>
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		<title>By: edward</title>
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		<dc:creator>edward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The renderings look great. What will the mesh  screening really look like? 
Follow up please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The renderings look great. What will the mesh  screening really look like?<br />
Follow up please.</p>
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