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	<title>Comments on: Toy Factory Loft by Zellnerplus</title>
	<link>http://www.dezeen.com/2008/08/14/toy-factory-loft-by-zellnerplus/</link>
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		<title>By: charliehustle</title>
		<link>http://www.dezeen.com/2008/08/14/toy-factory-loft-by-zellnerplus/#comment-196496</link>
		<dc:creator>charliehustle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 00:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.dezeen.com/2008/08/14/toy-factory-loft-by-zellnerplus/#comment-196496</guid>
		<description>What inane criticism. Lighting? Furniture? The above photos are not what the space looks like occupied.  The images above show what is clearly an empty loft lit up for a photoshoot  before the occupant moves in and before any interior decoration has happened. I've seen photos of  the loft space as it exists and zellner's addition works great. The owner has filled it with lighting, furniture etc and, given the style of the owner, the angles work. Sometimes people like certain aesthetics and hire architects to deliver them. End of story. Why not have an angular element in what is an otherwise orthaganol space? Its far from a disgrace, its actually a pretty cool project.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What inane criticism. Lighting? Furniture? The above photos are not what the space looks like occupied.  The images above show what is clearly an empty loft lit up for a photoshoot  before the occupant moves in and before any interior decoration has happened. I&#8217;ve seen photos of  the loft space as it exists and zellner&#8217;s addition works great. The owner has filled it with lighting, furniture etc and, given the style of the owner, the angles work. Sometimes people like certain aesthetics and hire architects to deliver them. End of story. Why not have an angular element in what is an otherwise orthaganol space? Its far from a disgrace, its actually a pretty cool project.</p>
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		<title>By: Los Angeles lofts</title>
		<link>http://www.dezeen.com/2008/08/14/toy-factory-loft-by-zellnerplus/#comment-194308</link>
		<dc:creator>Los Angeles lofts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.dezeen.com/2008/08/14/toy-factory-loft-by-zellnerplus/#comment-194308</guid>
		<description>The design is giving me a headache.  Someone has been watching The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari too many times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The design is giving me a headache.  Someone has been watching The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari too many times.</p>
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		<title>By: Joolzy</title>
		<link>http://www.dezeen.com/2008/08/14/toy-factory-loft-by-zellnerplus/#comment-169845</link>
		<dc:creator>Joolzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 09:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.dezeen.com/2008/08/14/toy-factory-loft-by-zellnerplus/#comment-169845</guid>
		<description>I like it!!

"What was accomplished with all the angular woodwork? Nothing!"
- I think that's what make this space interesting!

Architecture doesn't always have to be practical, sometimes it's about feelings and emotions...i'd feel great if i were living there!

However, if this was my place, i'd buy some furniture and better lighting.

LOL @ the last comment : )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like it!!</p>
<p>&#8220;What was accomplished with all the angular woodwork? Nothing!&#8221;<br />
- I think that&#8217;s what make this space interesting!</p>
<p>Architecture doesn&#8217;t always have to be practical, sometimes it&#8217;s about feelings and emotions&#8230;i&#8217;d feel great if i were living there!</p>
<p>However, if this was my place, i&#8217;d buy some furniture and better lighting.</p>
<p>LOL @ the last comment : )</p>
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		<title>By: tickety-boo</title>
		<link>http://www.dezeen.com/2008/08/14/toy-factory-loft-by-zellnerplus/#comment-169173</link>
		<dc:creator>tickety-boo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 05:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.dezeen.com/2008/08/14/toy-factory-loft-by-zellnerplus/#comment-169173</guid>
		<description>The above comments demonstrate the banality of the web - too many comments which neither enlighten nor critique.

The work is obviously done by a Nietzschean god who was made of steel,travelled back time in a great big magnetic field, to the 1990s - studied architecture  - quickly zoomed back to the present and made a fairly interesting studio interior... I reckon you could have some pretty killer parties there ay... Plus the kitchen bench looks it'll be great for blow...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The above comments demonstrate the banality of the web - too many comments which neither enlighten nor critique.</p>
<p>The work is obviously done by a Nietzschean god who was made of steel,travelled back time in a great big magnetic field, to the 1990s - studied architecture  - quickly zoomed back to the present and made a fairly interesting studio interior&#8230; I reckon you could have some pretty killer parties there ay&#8230; Plus the kitchen bench looks it&#8217;ll be great for blow&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: G</title>
		<link>http://www.dezeen.com/2008/08/14/toy-factory-loft-by-zellnerplus/#comment-167784</link>
		<dc:creator>G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 02:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.dezeen.com/2008/08/14/toy-factory-loft-by-zellnerplus/#comment-167784</guid>
		<description>Someone put time and thinking into this - instate of been behind a monitor criticizing something they don't even understand, so please show some respect. 

For future references if you don't have something nice to say just don't say anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone put time and thinking into this - instate of been behind a monitor criticizing something they don&#8217;t even understand, so please show some respect. </p>
<p>For future references if you don&#8217;t have something nice to say just don&#8217;t say anything.</p>
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		<title>By: XF</title>
		<link>http://www.dezeen.com/2008/08/14/toy-factory-loft-by-zellnerplus/#comment-167727</link>
		<dc:creator>XF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.dezeen.com/2008/08/14/toy-factory-loft-by-zellnerplus/#comment-167727</guid>
		<description>Ideally these sort of discussions should be focused on the work and not, per several posts other above, immature and clearly personal attacks in the place of calibrated critique and debate about the work.

Its clear that what's really most embarrassing here is the total lack of any critical distance on the part of certain participants and, as a corollary, their inability to comment on work in a productive and intelligent manner.

What's telling here is the insistence on having the last word...as opposed to productively moving onto the next thread and thereby contributing to this community's common interests.

It would be telling, per BIFF above, if these posts would elicit more contributions in terms of recent work or at least discussions of comparable projects ...but then that would not achieve the obvious intended goal of being destructive as opposed to being constructive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ideally these sort of discussions should be focused on the work and not, per several posts other above, immature and clearly personal attacks in the place of calibrated critique and debate about the work.</p>
<p>Its clear that what&#8217;s really most embarrassing here is the total lack of any critical distance on the part of certain participants and, as a corollary, their inability to comment on work in a productive and intelligent manner.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s telling here is the insistence on having the last word&#8230;as opposed to productively moving onto the next thread and thereby contributing to this community&#8217;s common interests.</p>
<p>It would be telling, per BIFF above, if these posts would elicit more contributions in terms of recent work or at least discussions of comparable projects &#8230;but then that would not achieve the obvious intended goal of being destructive as opposed to being constructive.</p>
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		<title>By: jt</title>
		<link>http://www.dezeen.com/2008/08/14/toy-factory-loft-by-zellnerplus/#comment-167427</link>
		<dc:creator>jt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 18:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.dezeen.com/2008/08/14/toy-factory-loft-by-zellnerplus/#comment-167427</guid>
		<description>sorry, i guess it was more like 8 years ago when he mounted an exhibition of his work at sciarc.  i dont know what he's built since then, i just remember how embarrassed i was for him.  nothings changed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry, i guess it was more like 8 years ago when he mounted an exhibition of his work at sciarc.  i dont know what he&#8217;s built since then, i just remember how embarrassed i was for him.  nothings changed.</p>
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		<title>By: XF</title>
		<link>http://www.dezeen.com/2008/08/14/toy-factory-loft-by-zellnerplus/#comment-167118</link>
		<dc:creator>XF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 21:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.dezeen.com/2008/08/14/toy-factory-loft-by-zellnerplus/#comment-167118</guid>
		<description>This is such nonsense.

I went to school with the architect 10 years ago at the GSD- so that is plainly not true. 

The office opened in 2004/5. This is one of their first built projects.  Check your facts or keep just  your posts to architecture related comments!

What is wrong with you people? Can we just keep this discussion civil and about architecture? Why is this getting so personal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is such nonsense.</p>
<p>I went to school with the architect 10 years ago at the GSD- so that is plainly not true. </p>
<p>The office opened in 2004/5. This is one of their first built projects.  Check your facts or keep just  your posts to architecture related comments!</p>
<p>What is wrong with you people? Can we just keep this discussion civil and about architecture? Why is this getting so personal?</p>
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		<title>By: bioz segundo</title>
		<link>http://www.dezeen.com/2008/08/14/toy-factory-loft-by-zellnerplus/#comment-167109</link>
		<dc:creator>bioz segundo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 21:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.dezeen.com/2008/08/14/toy-factory-loft-by-zellnerplus/#comment-167109</guid>
		<description>this is for rem , sorry but ur bicentenial bilding for mexico isnt that great 
lack of compposition and , try thinking in mexico city urban context</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is for rem , sorry but ur bicentenial bilding for mexico isnt that great<br />
lack of compposition and , try thinking in mexico city urban context</p>
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		<title>By: jt</title>
		<link>http://www.dezeen.com/2008/08/14/toy-factory-loft-by-zellnerplus/#comment-167067</link>
		<dc:creator>jt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 18:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.dezeen.com/2008/08/14/toy-factory-loft-by-zellnerplus/#comment-167067</guid>
		<description>architect is not still getting started, he was churning out the exact same pap 10 years ago.  just lame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>architect is not still getting started, he was churning out the exact same pap 10 years ago.  just lame.</p>
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