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	<title>Comments on: Ordos villa by Estudio Barozzi Veiga</title>
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		<title>By: Frederique</title>
		<link>http://www.dezeen.com/2008/09/02/ordos-villa-by-estudio-barozzi-veiga/comment-page-1/#comment-237331</link>
		<dc:creator>Frederique</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 10:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually like this project. Yes, it looks like the Philharmonie in Hambrurg, but it is definately nog stolen. Atleast net more the any part of modernism to Le Corbusier. It is part of a new move in Architecture, wich started only just about 2 years ago, to move back to the arches en spheres of the old days, and to re-enterprit them in a new fashion. Atelier Bow How has also made a very interesting move for Ordos. Yes, it is daring, somethimes strange, but not formalism. It&#039;s reaching back to achive the new. Some say it is more Human. &quot;Minimalism is Dead&quot; wrote one of the top critics ownly last year. But these architects feel that &quot;maximalism&quot; is the trap of the other extreme. My collegues and i feel that this can be an interesting anser.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually like this project. Yes, it looks like the Philharmonie in Hambrurg, but it is definately nog stolen. Atleast net more the any part of modernism to Le Corbusier. It is part of a new move in Architecture, wich started only just about 2 years ago, to move back to the arches en spheres of the old days, and to re-enterprit them in a new fashion. Atelier Bow How has also made a very interesting move for Ordos. Yes, it is daring, somethimes strange, but not formalism. It&#8217;s reaching back to achive the new. Some say it is more Human. &#8220;Minimalism is Dead&#8221; wrote one of the top critics ownly last year. But these architects feel that &#8220;maximalism&#8221; is the trap of the other extreme. My collegues and i feel that this can be an interesting anser.</p>
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		<title>By: CBC</title>
		<link>http://www.dezeen.com/2008/09/02/ordos-villa-by-estudio-barozzi-veiga/comment-page-1/#comment-188145</link>
		<dc:creator>CBC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 17:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>more information abot this house please. Its for a university proyect. thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>more information abot this house please. Its for a university proyect. thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: kemorrr</title>
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		<dc:creator>kemorrr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 10:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are saying that&#039;s a shriken version of HdeM&#039;s Hamburg building? So before that please take Berlin concert hall by Scharoun and compare the two, adding some bits of the interview given by Herzog in the first El Croquis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are saying that&#8217;s a shriken version of HdeM&#8217;s Hamburg building? So before that please take Berlin concert hall by Scharoun and compare the two, adding some bits of the interview given by Herzog in the first El Croquis.</p>
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		<title>By: gaque</title>
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		<dc:creator>gaque</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 22:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MADA s.p.a.m.&#039;s house with a similar roof is another story. It&#039;s really not even that similiar. Look at the Elbe Philharmonie... 
http://www.archidose.org/Blog/hamburg1.jpg


Here, the architect has made the formal gesture for a symbolic purpose (&quot;solidification of nomadic tent&quot;). 

I understand that architects are part of the globalized styles and/or approaches--MADA s.p.a.m., a Chinese firm, included. What I criticize is not the lack of pure regionalism, but the abundance of superficial attempts to look like a local.

Also, yes, seasonal fruit is a very good idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MADA s.p.a.m.&#8217;s house with a similar roof is another story. It&#8217;s really not even that similiar. Look at the Elbe Philharmonie&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://www.archidose.org/Blog/hamburg1.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.archidose.org/Blog/hamburg1.jpg</a></p>
<p>Here, the architect has made the formal gesture for a symbolic purpose (&#8221;solidification of nomadic tent&#8221;). </p>
<p>I understand that architects are part of the globalized styles and/or approaches&#8211;MADA s.p.a.m., a Chinese firm, included. What I criticize is not the lack of pure regionalism, but the abundance of superficial attempts to look like a local.</p>
<p>Also, yes, seasonal fruit is a very good idea.</p>
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		<title>By: ldl1</title>
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		<dc:creator>ldl1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 21:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would disagree that this is a european house with forced, post-empire fascinations with the desert. Would you be so upset about the same roof profile from a local (albeit Han Chinese) architect?

See the &#039;well hall&#039; house, by MADA s.p.a.m. in the following link. 

http://www.designboom.com/weblog/read.php?CATEGORY_PK=&amp;TOPIC_PK=2226

There&#039;s been a quickness with judgments against foreign practice. With international commerce and trade, I suspect that the local has been supplanted more and more with the global. Cultures have continually been trading ideas and techniques; this has become nearly instantaneous with not only communications but also supply. One may as well stop buying bananas in the winter - if you&#039;ll stretch the idea to available produce - or build with steel from Korea.  
The only bastion for the purity of the regional are in trades that have no immediate access to the global market, and are oblivious to things outside their surroundings. Like aboriginal songlines, these are the ones that can uphold a tradition through hermetics and local intensities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would disagree that this is a european house with forced, post-empire fascinations with the desert. Would you be so upset about the same roof profile from a local (albeit Han Chinese) architect?</p>
<p>See the &#8216;well hall&#8217; house, by MADA s.p.a.m. in the following link. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.designboom.com/weblog/read.php?CATEGORY_PK=&amp;TOPIC_PK=2226" rel="nofollow">http://www.designboom.com/weblog/read.php?CATEGORY_PK=&amp;TOPIC_PK=2226</a></p>
<p>There&#8217;s been a quickness with judgments against foreign practice. With international commerce and trade, I suspect that the local has been supplanted more and more with the global. Cultures have continually been trading ideas and techniques; this has become nearly instantaneous with not only communications but also supply. One may as well stop buying bananas in the winter &#8211; if you&#8217;ll stretch the idea to available produce &#8211; or build with steel from Korea.<br />
The only bastion for the purity of the regional are in trades that have no immediate access to the global market, and are oblivious to things outside their surroundings. Like aboriginal songlines, these are the ones that can uphold a tradition through hermetics and local intensities.</p>
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		<title>By: gaque</title>
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		<dc:creator>gaque</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 02:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree with many of the comments here. this has no worthwhile relationship with its site.

spatially, i do find it interesting, but you would think that a single house in the middle of the desert would be more unique? this is typical cool european architecture...

why is it a square? also, the lot sizes for this development are pretty small...so i agree that the disney land effect seems probably.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree with many of the comments here. this has no worthwhile relationship with its site.</p>
<p>spatially, i do find it interesting, but you would think that a single house in the middle of the desert would be more unique? this is typical cool european architecture&#8230;</p>
<p>why is it a square? also, the lot sizes for this development are pretty small&#8230;so i agree that the disney land effect seems probably.</p>
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		<title>By: valthewu</title>
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		<dc:creator>valthewu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why does that pattern repeat itself?</description>
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		<title>By: seewusagoor ramgoolam</title>
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		<dc:creator>seewusagoor ramgoolam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its interesting (tending towards ridiculous) how the process of transplanting architecture today, conceptualised in one culture and then most often violently transplanted in another compels the creator to glorify the very little, often romantic knowledge one has of these far off locations. 

the sole contribution to the context are highly distorted, simplified interpretations and often mockeries of age old elements like the tent, the patio and the verandah, but the final creation bears none of the richness of these timeless features. the villian here (not the architect)is the tendency of rich people to order any kind of architecture, in any kind of place. making tents and patios in mongolia is not a fit means of acknowledging context. it is very &#039;disneyesque&#039;.

also the image of the solitary &#039;tent&#039; rendering will be so different when this villa is placed amongst the 99 other thematic pieces. what will it then look like?....... just that- a disneylike exhibit.

sorry , but this is not contextual apart from the fact that &#039;it sits where it sits, and that might be okay. but please , no romanticization in the name of tents and patios. a stinking rich family is going to live here. best regards!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its interesting (tending towards ridiculous) how the process of transplanting architecture today, conceptualised in one culture and then most often violently transplanted in another compels the creator to glorify the very little, often romantic knowledge one has of these far off locations. </p>
<p>the sole contribution to the context are highly distorted, simplified interpretations and often mockeries of age old elements like the tent, the patio and the verandah, but the final creation bears none of the richness of these timeless features. the villian here (not the architect)is the tendency of rich people to order any kind of architecture, in any kind of place. making tents and patios in mongolia is not a fit means of acknowledging context. it is very &#8216;disneyesque&#8217;.</p>
<p>also the image of the solitary &#8216;tent&#8217; rendering will be so different when this villa is placed amongst the 99 other thematic pieces. what will it then look like?&#8230;&#8230;. just that- a disneylike exhibit.</p>
<p>sorry , but this is not contextual apart from the fact that &#8216;it sits where it sits, and that might be okay. but please , no romanticization in the name of tents and patios. a stinking rich family is going to live here. best regards!!</p>
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		<title>By: Manuel Torres</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manuel Torres</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just for your information, these architects are not spanish: their office is located in Barcelona but they are italian. And before stablishing their own practice they worked for Guillermo Vázquez Consuegra in Sevilla (Spain).

Hope you can still correct this post.

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just for your information, these architects are not spanish: their office is located in Barcelona but they are italian. And before stablishing their own practice they worked for Guillermo Vázquez Consuegra in Sevilla (Spain).</p>
<p>Hope you can still correct this post.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: eduardo</title>
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		<dc:creator>eduardo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 17:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>don&#039;t they have better architects in Mongolia???</description>
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