Comments on: LTSC Project by Zellnerplus

By: Tom Sawyer

Tom Sawyer — Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:58:02 +0000

The rendering which shows the escalators breaking off the facade and continuing the patterning at a smaller scale then becoming the patterning on the ground is quite elegant. I think there is more complexity in this project than most of you realize.

It’s sad that most of you can only see triangles. In fact it’s the same people who see the same curvy form over and over again from Zaha and go “masterpiece” but don’t understand that those curves when built get rationalized in quads or trianglular panels.

At least this project tries to use rationalized geometry in a conceptual manner rather taking a conceptual geometry and post-rationalizing how the skin will be built.

Good project.

By: da

da — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:16:44 +0000

disagree with lim > I think the facade is elegant in its complexity and articulation… nice one peter

By: Stefan

Stefan — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 12:33:45 +0000

i love geometric experiments and i normally disagree with the ones shouting out “Lame” if something isnt rectangular… buut… this truly is Lame… they found out about triangulations in 1980 so what is this facade for in 2008?
and why is nobody interested in the program and the functions? because these things are as basic as they are in every mall.. no vision and no innovation in here just black background and triangulation…

By: Mac

Mac — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 13:00:57 +0000

Do a google (image) search for “ROC Nijmegen” or look here: gallery.zoom.nl/image/566307/html

By: Local

Local — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 21:40:53 +0000

Living in this neighborhood, the lack of any type of context shown in the images, or considered in the design, disturbs me. This superficial skin-job will become a jarring eyesore in Little Tokyo – much like the Office dA gas station it seems modeled after over in the Beverly Hills area. Dropping a harsh metal 3d-wireframe building into a cozy commerical/residential neighborhood will not necessarily make a successful mall, no matter what new demographic the shops inside are aimed at. Thinking in terms of the neighborhood, pedestrian movement, and the existing urban fabric may lead to a more integrated and desirable destination for my rapidly gentrifying little neighborhood. I am hoping someday soon we see some architects from the SCI-Arc clan dealing with the issues of real space rather than digital surfaces.

By: Ulysses

Ulysses — Sun, 07 Sep 2008 21:15:56 +0000

Nothing bothers me more than when people reduce an architectural discussion to computer operations. Who cares whether the triangulation was generated from the the 3d wireframe? Just because you are aware (or unaware) of how it was done does not make the project more or less successful. This project has it’s successes and failures and you should talk about them critically.

NMiller is right: How does the skin deal with the real problem of the project which is the urban context of that area and why it’s failing.

If you were to ask me I would think that the triangulation activates what is a rather monolithic facade and creates a sense of movement into that a courtyardish space. Not a terrible concept…

However there seems to be so much triangulation that it actually does the the opposite in most cases and you seemed to be trapped in a world of triangles. It actually makes the space very stagnant which doesn’t seem like such a good strategy to activate an urban space.

It kinda seems like the designers thought that a geometry type rather than solid design concepts could solve their problems. Rather typical these days.

By: critic

critic — Sun, 07 Sep 2008 14:32:23 +0000

yes triangulation is explained, nevertheless it’s unimaginative and boring.
tired, wired, expired? more than the latter!

By: Casey

Casey — Sun, 07 Sep 2008 01:11:17 +0000

The text explains the triangulation.
Looks Great!

By: NMiller

NMiller — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 22:22:10 +0000

The programmatic ideas and diagrams for renovation seem thoughtful. The skin, however, feels like an afterthought… very sloppy in concept.

How does a new expensive facade deal with the larger economic issues related to the death of a shopping mall? Is this new image really responsive to the demographic shifts that have resulted in vacancy? These designers seem overly concerned with the “cool” image over the real urban issues surrounding a project of this sort.

Fling… sock shop indeed.

By: DN3

DN3 — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 17:23:00 +0000

It will look old very soon!!