Comments on: Conversations in Bronze at Carpenters Workshop Gallery http://www.dezeen.com/2008/09/30/vincent-dubourg-and-ingrid-donat-at-carpenters-workshop/ architecture and design magazine Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:21:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: xtiaan http://www.dezeen.com/2008/09/30/vincent-dubourg-and-ingrid-donat-at-carpenters-workshop/comment-page-1/#comment-190105 xtiaan Sun, 19 Oct 2008 23:24:23 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2008/09/30/vincent-dubourg-and-ingrid-donat-at-carpenters-workshop/#comment-190105 its art, get over it people, open up those tiny minds and let something new in its art, get over it people, open up those tiny minds and let something new in

]]> By: james w. http://www.dezeen.com/2008/09/30/vincent-dubourg-and-ingrid-donat-at-carpenters-workshop/comment-page-1/#comment-183011 james w. Thu, 02 Oct 2008 01:34:07 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2008/09/30/vincent-dubourg-and-ingrid-donat-at-carpenters-workshop/#comment-183011 It is true: High Design, Limited Edition, or Design Art, (what ever you want to call it) need not be beautiful. So calling this furniture ugly isn't really saying much. Lots of important, valuable work isn't beautiful and that doesn't degrade its value as Art. How about this: Is this Art? Design Art? What does it really say?Does it really raise a dialogue between man and nature, as they claim? Does it really speak to the relationship between limited and mass produced? In what way? because it was made by hand? The average Christmas Craft show if full of hand made things- I'm not sure that really elucidates a new understanding of limited and mass. What is the patterning about? is it just random cuteness? or is there something deeper behind this work? While the previous comments take issue with digitally influenced work, I would ask: isn't the patterning that is arising from digitally oriented design studios a bit more interesting (even valuable) since it presents a real tension by bridging of the historical and the completely new? I feel the patterning here is simply retro: As they say, "evoking the influence of an art deco, tribal tattooing and the work of Gustav Klimt." Isn't that exactly what corny big retailers always do- make chintzy historical remake pieces? I have to say, I think that this work is presenting it self as if it were relating to some issues that are important now within design, but isn't really speaking to them in any kind of powerful, poignant, savy or romantic way. Its kind of dull. Just made of very heavy, expensive materials. I think I agree with some of the somewhat critical comments above. It is true: High Design, Limited Edition, or Design Art, (what ever you want to call it) need not be beautiful. So calling this furniture ugly isn’t really saying much. Lots of important, valuable work isn’t beautiful and that doesn’t degrade its value as Art.

How about this: Is this Art? Design Art? What does it really say?Does it really raise a dialogue between man and nature, as they claim? Does it really speak to the relationship between limited and mass produced? In what way? because it was made by hand? The average Christmas Craft show if full of hand made things- I’m not sure that really elucidates a new understanding of limited and mass.

What is the patterning about? is it just random cuteness? or is there something deeper behind this work? While the previous comments take issue with digitally influenced work, I would ask: isn’t the patterning that is arising from digitally oriented design studios a bit more interesting (even valuable) since it presents a real tension by bridging of the historical and the completely new?

I feel the patterning here is simply retro: As they say, “evoking the influence of an art deco, tribal tattooing and the work of Gustav Klimt.” Isn’t that exactly what corny big retailers always do- make chintzy historical remake pieces?

I have to say, I think that this work is presenting it self as if it were relating to some issues that are important now within design, but isn’t really speaking to them in any kind of powerful, poignant, savy or romantic way. Its kind of dull. Just made of very heavy, expensive materials. I think I agree with some of the somewhat critical comments above.

]]> By: mama http://www.dezeen.com/2008/09/30/vincent-dubourg-and-ingrid-donat-at-carpenters-workshop/comment-page-1/#comment-182998 mama Thu, 02 Oct 2008 00:48:35 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2008/09/30/vincent-dubourg-and-ingrid-donat-at-carpenters-workshop/#comment-182998 Codswallop. If it needs this much explanation it ain't good. Codswallop. If it needs this much explanation it ain’t good.

]]> By: Razor http://www.dezeen.com/2008/09/30/vincent-dubourg-and-ingrid-donat-at-carpenters-workshop/comment-page-1/#comment-182852 Razor Wed, 01 Oct 2008 15:31:42 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2008/09/30/vincent-dubourg-and-ingrid-donat-at-carpenters-workshop/#comment-182852 As usual, the typically ignorant comments come before what really matters. I urge every one of you to go to the gallery before posting such rubbish. The work of Dubourg and Donat is beautiful, it may not be what many of you consider to be contemporary design because it has not been produced in high glossy plastic and have sensous curves but it has every right to be here. These are two artists/designers who work very much away from the traditional design scene and as a result they have produced very different work to what you may normally see. In doing so they have created what can only be described as functional sculpture, beautiful to behold and useable too by all accounts. I went to the gallery yesterday to have a look at it myself having seen this post and was quite overwhelmed – it is rare these days to see such handicraft going into design, think more human, less machine. I am aware that pieces like this are only available to a lucky few and unfortunately i’m not one of them, however, it is designers like these that push the boundaries and allow this type of thinking to eventually filter down into the main stream, go and see for yourselves, you’ll be pleasantly surprised. As usual, the typically ignorant comments come before what really matters. I urge every one of you to go to the gallery before posting such rubbish. The work of Dubourg and Donat is beautiful, it may not be what many of you consider to be contemporary design because it has not been produced in high glossy plastic and have sensous curves but it has every right to be here. These are two artists/designers who work very much away from the traditional design scene and as a result they have produced very different work to what you may normally see. In doing so they have created what can only be described as functional sculpture, beautiful to behold and useable too by all accounts. I went to the gallery yesterday to have a look at it myself having seen this post and was quite overwhelmed – it is rare these days to see such handicraft going into design, think more human, less machine. I am aware that pieces like this are only available to a lucky few and unfortunately i’m not one of them, however, it is designers like these that push the boundaries and allow this type of thinking to eventually filter down into the main stream, go and see for yourselves, you’ll be pleasantly surprised.

]]> By: erm http://www.dezeen.com/2008/09/30/vincent-dubourg-and-ingrid-donat-at-carpenters-workshop/comment-page-1/#comment-182836 erm Wed, 01 Oct 2008 14:40:56 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2008/09/30/vincent-dubourg-and-ingrid-donat-at-carpenters-workshop/#comment-182836 my god, what a narrow minded bunch of readers you are, and why are you all so concerned with definitions. grow up, or stick to core77. my god, what a narrow minded bunch of readers you are, and why are you all so concerned with definitions.

grow up, or stick to core77.

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