Comments on: Queens Museum of Art by Elliot White

By: Christian

Christian — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 10:01:08 +0000

i have another example for a bitter duplicate.
look this – http://www.jmayerh.de/work/buildings/metropol/build_in.htm
and look this – http://www.baunetz.de/diplomderwoche/Parametrisches_Modellieren_649522.html?s_hochschule=56546
but what should we do

By: qwerty

qwerty — Mon, 16 Feb 2009 14:16:08 +0000

I’m jealous.

Product design stories never get as many responses as the architeture stories.

Bah.

Thus is the hierarchy….but I still reckon I could defeat ten skinny be-spectacled black jumper types in fisticuffs any day.

Hah.

By: AS

AS — Mon, 16 Feb 2009 01:12:29 +0000

Honestly, do you all remember how you got to become designers and architects? By being a student. You were not born as the skilled professionals that you now are. You relied on education and feedback from others to hone your skills.

Some of the nasty comments above are so completely unnecessary. Sure there could be a little more discipline to this design, but he’s in 3rd year people… it’s all about unimpeded idea and concept generation at this stage. The how and why will be developed with time. That’s if he makes it to 4th year after receiving so much soul destroying and confidence blasting responses.

Be constructive with your criticism and STOP being so elitist. You might learn a thing or two from young bright sparks if you removed your head from your asses.

Keep going Elliot, some bright ideas emerging there! Also a lesson that you can’t please everyone so don’t try to or worry about it!

And a note to all of you “it’s not original” critics, nothing is original anymore, everything is an adaptation of something. It’s whether or not this appropriation is relevant which counts.

By: Anahita

Anahita — Sun, 15 Feb 2009 10:37:03 +0000

This is a brilliant job, Good Luck Elliot.

By: El Greco

El Greco — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 18:02:46 +0000

Look ma! My first Maya project!

And to all those complaining about criticism of this or any project… we’re designers, not yes men. Feel free to rubber stamp any and all banal projects at school/work as you see fit.

In terms of the “this can’t be built” argument, please see Toyo Ito’s crematorium (http://www.bdonline.co.uk/story.asp?storyCode=3082629).

By: Eugene

Eugene — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:39:18 +0000

I don’t think there is anything wrong having student’s work shown here, experimental and radical enough with such guts to do it. After all, are’nt academic works and academic training supposed to be a time for nuturing a habit for endless experimentation?

Let alone the student finds his way to make sense of it when he gets into professional practice. I say we should not put down students with the care to try different things to intrigue or even inspire many other fellow designers.

By: Sarah Elizabeth

Sarah Elizabeth — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 15:16:11 +0000

to rudedude–that’s exactly what they said about Ghery. I can’t believe how many people are critical of this–just goes to show you how many insecure designers/architects are out there…Aren’t we getting sick of stereotypes yet? Just because this is a student work doesn’t make it any less valid or interesting. I find it refreshing.

By: Mootly Obviate

Mootly Obviate — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 14:30:15 +0000

* Student works should be shared and commented on in public forums like this.
* Students should be allowed to experiment.
* It is easy to claim something is derivative because it looks sort of like it falls into one camp or another that critics have typed famous architects into or that architects have claimed as their own. Also note that such claims of derivation seem to be a name dropping game. How many times can we drop the name Zaha Hadid? Perhaps the student was actually inspired by some lesser known work of Jungermann. Or perhaps Hadid is as influenced by her tools as these students are.
* However, the point of such encouragement is to allow for a broader base of critique.

So …

* Buildings have context. Most student projects that get shown off like this are entirely lacking in context. For instance, where in Queens could you even put such a thing, and what sort of dialog would it establish with the surrounding architecture? Would it become nothing but a larger version of Tokyo’s Golden Turd?
* Buildings have function. Judging from the interior shots of this structure, the only function the building serves is to create space. As someone asked already, where would you hang the art?
* Buildings, certainly public buildings, need to relate to people.
* Overlooking these factors is not intellectual experimentation, it is intellectual laziness. On the other hand, learning where your weaknesses are and overcoming them is a critical aprt of learning.

By: TOUSSAINT JIMENEZ ROJAS

TOUSSAINT JIMENEZ ROJAS — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 14:00:24 +0000

Hummmmmm, Nice project, i dont know why here, there’s a lot of people against the human mind exploration, remember the old eras when the gothic wasnt gothic, maybe in the past time someone push him mind out of the ambigous and classic way of seen the architecture, and get into the gothic trend. be smarts this project its the reality of our contemporaneous trend of computers, and virtual world inside our minds and electronics machines, why we dont put this amazing project in the virtual space of our life, in a parallel dimension ?……….. dont be dumb get it all of our mind cand imagine and concebir, this is architecture.

By: Rozo

Rozo — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 13:35:29 +0000

following the designer words, this could be a plain ORTHOGONAL building
not wasting millions in peoples efforts to achieve that ameba