Comments on: Animated Atmosphere by Nora Graw http://www.dezeen.com/2009/02/14/animated-atmosphere-by-nora-graw/ architecture and design magazine Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:19:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Juma http://www.dezeen.com/2009/02/14/animated-atmosphere-by-nora-graw/comment-page-1/#comment-236239 Juma Thu, 19 Feb 2009 07:21:11 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2009/02/14/animated-atmosphere-by-nora-graw/#comment-236239 You have a feeling this is coming to an end? Wha? Go back to the stone ages you Neanderthal! You have a feeling this is coming to an end? Wha? Go back to the stone ages you Neanderthal!

]]> By: Boppie http://www.dezeen.com/2009/02/14/animated-atmosphere-by-nora-graw/comment-page-1/#comment-235719 Boppie Tue, 17 Feb 2009 21:15:50 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2009/02/14/animated-atmosphere-by-nora-graw/#comment-235719 I'm getting a bit bored of the computer projects. I have a feeling this is coming to an end. It misses the strength of having a form, this doesn't have a form. It's just made. Indeed, I can't see in the building why it has this form and why it is mentioned it is in Buenos Aires on this specific location(except for giving the location an 'identity', which I believe it already has). But that could be because we miss the whole story. Beautifull presentation drawings though. By the way, budget shouldn't be an issue in a graduation project. That'll come in real life. First you need to develop in conceptual, construction and material design matters. I’m getting a bit bored of the computer projects. I have a feeling this is coming to an end.
It misses the strength of having a form, this doesn’t have a form. It’s just made.
Indeed, I can’t see in the building why it has this form and why it is mentioned it is in Buenos Aires on this specific location(except for giving the location an ‘identity’, which I believe it already has). But that could be because we miss the whole story.
Beautifull presentation drawings though.

By the way, budget shouldn’t be an issue in a graduation project. That’ll come in real life. First you need to develop in conceptual, construction and material design matters.

]]> By: Erfan http://www.dezeen.com/2009/02/14/animated-atmosphere-by-nora-graw/comment-page-1/#comment-235637 Erfan Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:07:13 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2009/02/14/animated-atmosphere-by-nora-graw/#comment-235637 Very good job. Very good job.

]]> By: betuwill http://www.dezeen.com/2009/02/14/animated-atmosphere-by-nora-graw/comment-page-1/#comment-235600 betuwill Tue, 17 Feb 2009 13:36:40 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2009/02/14/animated-atmosphere-by-nora-graw/#comment-235600 obviously the building is not resolved in many ways,...but how sad would it be if a thesis project would set itself as a goal to produce feasible architecture (did soemone mention budget??? jesus!!!),..instead of exploring a more intuitivly driven approach,...to produce..an effect, or a certain athmosphere..."the new"....i think this project achieves this goal in a really successfull way,...the skin beeing dissolved in a gradient way, suggesting beeing structural trough an intersecting pattern,..nesting of programs,...thumbs up N. obviously the building is not resolved in many ways,…but how sad would it be if a thesis project would set itself as a goal to produce feasible architecture (did soemone mention budget??? jesus!!!),..instead of exploring a more intuitivly driven approach,…to produce..an effect, or a certain athmosphere…”the new”….i think this project achieves this goal in a really successfull way,…the skin beeing dissolved in a gradient way, suggesting beeing structural trough an intersecting pattern,..nesting of programs,…thumbs up N.

]]> By: Sub_Prime http://www.dezeen.com/2009/02/14/animated-atmosphere-by-nora-graw/comment-page-1/#comment-235573 Sub_Prime Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:07:24 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2009/02/14/animated-atmosphere-by-nora-graw/#comment-235573 I hope that Dezeen will keep publishing student projects online, but I wish they would stop showing student projects of the same character. Recently we had a "museum" by Eliot White of the Pratt Institute and now we have this similarly asexual and pointless "Animated Atmosphere" for the film industry. These two projects are literally hollow shells and have little to offer the profession except as aq benchmark of how not to do things. Why when there are many students out there producing ORIGINAL and RELEVANT work does Dezeen place emphasis on the same generic projects?. Please look beyond the initial renders to find and publish work that has real some depth and meaning (and perhaps some idea of a budget) However, I do have to give points to Dezeen for kick-starting this little debate about the current validity of student work... I hope that Dezeen will keep publishing student projects online, but I wish they would stop showing student projects of the same character. Recently we had a “museum” by Eliot White of the Pratt Institute and now we have this similarly asexual and pointless “Animated Atmosphere” for the film industry. These two projects are literally hollow shells and have little to offer the profession except as aq benchmark of how not to do things. Why when there are many students out there producing ORIGINAL and RELEVANT work does Dezeen place emphasis on the same generic projects?. Please look beyond the initial renders to find and publish work that has real some depth and meaning (and perhaps some idea of a budget)

However, I do have to give points to Dezeen for kick-starting this little debate about the current validity of student work…

]]> By: bauster http://www.dezeen.com/2009/02/14/animated-atmosphere-by-nora-graw/comment-page-1/#comment-235571 bauster Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:51:09 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2009/02/14/animated-atmosphere-by-nora-graw/#comment-235571 sure it's a student dipoma, but that doesn't matter; what matters really is the missing context; why buenos aires, where about there, why this form? just to stage a project like this in south america doen't provide it with anything special about it from the beginning! does it fit there? why this shreded facade? is it convenient? is it logic? the plans and sections arre really more informative than the cheesy renderings... and the problem with this kind of architecture is.. don't we need stairs and walls for any kind of building anymore.. hey weke up. all this open and flowing and twisting architecture without definite spaces is complete bogus.. right there the critics mentioning thermodynamics put the thumb down. to sum up: as an open pavillon it should do very well, but for a functioning building, just no..all in all its a nice form but unnecessary for the chosen site of buenos aires. did we ever hear about a flourishing animation movie scene???? sure it’s a student dipoma, but that doesn’t matter;
what matters really is the missing context; why buenos aires, where about there, why this form? just to stage a project like this in south america doen’t provide it with anything special about it from the beginning! does it fit there? why this shreded facade? is it convenient? is it logic?
the plans and sections arre really more informative than the cheesy renderings…
and the problem with this kind of architecture is.. don’t we need stairs and walls for any kind of building anymore.. hey weke up. all this open and flowing and twisting architecture without definite spaces is complete bogus..
right there the critics mentioning thermodynamics put the thumb down.
to sum up: as an open pavillon it should do very well, but for a functioning building, just no..all in all its a nice form but unnecessary for the chosen site of buenos aires. did we ever hear about a flourishing animation movie scene????

]]> By: i man http://www.dezeen.com/2009/02/14/animated-atmosphere-by-nora-graw/comment-page-1/#comment-235503 i man Tue, 17 Feb 2009 04:33:55 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2009/02/14/animated-atmosphere-by-nora-graw/#comment-235503 I'm still wondering what software that Graw used,is it catia?rhino?3d max?.. and the model looks nearly exact to the render one.. ..well Graw, good exploration in design, keep it up! I’m still wondering what software that Graw used,is it catia?rhino?3d max?..
and the model looks nearly exact to the render one..
..well Graw, good exploration in design, keep it up!

]]> By: Jacques Herzog http://www.dezeen.com/2009/02/14/animated-atmosphere-by-nora-graw/comment-page-1/#comment-235465 Jacques Herzog Tue, 17 Feb 2009 00:46:33 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2009/02/14/animated-atmosphere-by-nora-graw/#comment-235465 Ali - in which offices have you 'worked' to get your wealth of construction experience? Please let me know - we can still make sure that this doesn't happen to anyone else... Ali – in which offices have you ‘worked’ to get your wealth of construction experience? Please let me know – we can still make sure that this doesn’t happen to anyone else…

]]> By: gaque http://www.dezeen.com/2009/02/14/animated-atmosphere-by-nora-graw/comment-page-1/#comment-235427 gaque Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:34:31 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2009/02/14/animated-atmosphere-by-nora-graw/#comment-235427 Please stop Ali, you're revealing my ignorance to everybody...! every opinion is valid, of course. but if it's just a matter of "i like it" or "i dont," then why dont we just do polls...forgot about comments. as for criticism, if its well-thought out, then im sure ms. graw wouldnt mind it. Please stop Ali, you’re revealing my ignorance to everybody…!

every opinion is valid, of course. but if it’s just a matter of “i like it” or “i dont,” then why dont we just do polls…forgot about comments.

as for criticism, if its well-thought out, then im sure ms. graw wouldnt mind it.

]]> By: gaque http://www.dezeen.com/2009/02/14/animated-atmosphere-by-nora-graw/comment-page-1/#comment-235426 gaque Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:31:21 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2009/02/14/animated-atmosphere-by-nora-graw/#comment-235426 of course thermodynamics is an architectural concern! are you insane!? of course thermodynamics is an architectural concern! are you insane!?

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