Comments on: On the Bri(n)ck at Graduate School of Design, Harvard University http://www.dezeen.com/2009/05/11/on-the-brinck-at-graduate-school-of-design-harvard-university/ architecture and design magazine Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:32:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: jeff http://www.dezeen.com/2009/05/11/on-the-brinck-at-graduate-school-of-design-harvard-university/comment-page-2/#comment-321194 jeff Sat, 19 Sep 2009 06:36:02 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2009/05/11/on-the-brinck-at-graduate-school-of-design-harvard-university/#comment-321194 jeesus you design guys are being pricks! enough with the G&K comments blah blah blah, stop bitching and go do something interesting. well done, students, looks great. jeesus you design guys are being pricks! enough with the G&K comments blah blah blah, stop bitching and go do something interesting. well done, students, looks great.

]]> By: yimyim http://www.dezeen.com/2009/05/11/on-the-brinck-at-graduate-school-of-design-harvard-university/comment-page-2/#comment-267642 yimyim Tue, 19 May 2009 06:41:56 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2009/05/11/on-the-brinck-at-graduate-school-of-design-harvard-university/#comment-267642 @G-had "another example for the retarded state of design in the US." this is the point for me. PS i could learn to code too, but then I would be learning IT or something...perhaps it is the future, but i just hope the students have a firm grib on design first, otherwise the product will be alot of what we see from ^coded^architecture at the moment, almost irrelevant. Still all extremes start as just that, extremes... @G-had “another example for the retarded state of design in the US.”
this is the point for me.
PS i could learn to code too, but then I would be learning IT or something…perhaps it is the future, but i just hope the students have a firm grib on design first, otherwise the product will be alot of what we see from ^coded^architecture at the moment, almost irrelevant. Still all extremes start as just that, extremes…

]]> By: kos http://www.dezeen.com/2009/05/11/on-the-brinck-at-graduate-school-of-design-harvard-university/comment-page-2/#comment-267079 kos Sun, 17 May 2009 20:06:58 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2009/05/11/on-the-brinck-at-graduate-school-of-design-harvard-university/#comment-267079 In this case: borrowing means mere copying. "stealing" means incorporation and advancement of previous acheivements. In other words "stealing" means do it your own way. @.n It is not too sound to support that GSD (Master) students are mostly first-year architecture students. After all, I know some people entered GSD after 6 years of studying architecture. If you take into account that the overall team that build the prototype consists of 35 people (including some experts), then it is not such a miracle. If a robotic arm can lead only to such a wall type in both sides of the Atlantic, so computational design and parametric architecture can take on very little comparing to what have promised. I hope not! It is more than obvious that parthenogenesis does not exist and humankind proceed by advancement based on previous knowledge. Academic Practise is not about playing with bloody robots but it regards to prototypical contribution to a field. The serpentine wall at Virginia University has little connection to what we are talking about(building technology advancement, component-like architecture e.t.c.). This wall is about mere building, expressing aeshetic theories regarding landscape architecture. Of course GSD do great at crediting the contribution of students. Finally @ArchStudent, G&K (as well as Dieste) have realised with this method buildings and pavillions not just bienalle art installations. P.S. if students really get into the parametric modelling of component-wall or in the programming of g-code it will be very useful for them. In this case: borrowing means mere copying. “stealing” means incorporation and advancement of previous acheivements. In other words “stealing” means do it your own way.

@.n It is not too sound to support that GSD (Master) students are mostly first-year architecture students. After all, I know some people entered GSD after 6 years of studying architecture. If you take into account that the overall team that build the prototype consists of 35 people (including some experts), then it is not such a miracle.

If a robotic arm can lead only to such a wall type in both sides of the Atlantic, so computational design and parametric architecture can take on very little comparing to what have promised. I hope not!

It is more than obvious that parthenogenesis does not exist and humankind proceed by advancement based on previous knowledge. Academic Practise is not about playing with bloody robots but it regards to prototypical contribution to a field.

The serpentine wall at Virginia University has little connection to what we are talking about(building technology advancement, component-like architecture e.t.c.). This wall is about mere building, expressing aeshetic theories regarding landscape architecture.

Of course GSD do great at crediting the contribution of students.

Finally @ArchStudent, G&K (as well as Dieste) have realised with this method buildings and pavillions not just bienalle art installations.

P.S. if students really get into the parametric modelling of component-wall or in the programming of g-code it will be very useful for them.

]]> By: mp http://www.dezeen.com/2009/05/11/on-the-brinck-at-graduate-school-of-design-harvard-university/comment-page-2/#comment-267037 mp Sun, 17 May 2009 18:20:18 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2009/05/11/on-the-brinck-at-graduate-school-of-design-harvard-university/#comment-267037 Interesting, but people... you are discovering gun powder here!, this was done in the mid 60's by Eladio Dieste. If you want to see true genius in the use of brick and simple component logic.. google The Uruguayan Engineer. Interesting, but people… you are discovering gun powder here!, this was done in the mid 60’s by Eladio Dieste. If you want to see true genius in the use of brick and simple component logic.. google The Uruguayan Engineer.

]]> By: ArchStudent http://www.dezeen.com/2009/05/11/on-the-brinck-at-graduate-school-of-design-harvard-university/comment-page-2/#comment-266780 ArchStudent Sat, 16 May 2009 21:58:28 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2009/05/11/on-the-brinck-at-graduate-school-of-design-harvard-university/#comment-266780 As T.S. Eliot - an alumnus of Harvard University, is alleged to have once said, "Good poets borrow, great poets steal." For any designer in this world to make claims of novelty would take great hubris, which is unfortunately often the case in architecture. One could say that Eladio DiEste and G&K in fact copied the serpentine brick walls in the gardens of the University of Virginia by the American Thomas Jefferson (not to be chauvinistic), but this sort of bickering is counterproductive. The fact is that this is an early experiment at the GSD on the capabilities and limitations of robotic fabrication, which happens to have been largely done by first year architecture students in their free time. The real question here should be, if a fledgling group of students with a new (to them) technology, and a limited budget can do this in a few weeks, what could be done with more experience, time and money? I suspect far more than some petty wall installations, even if with all due respect they are in Venice. As T.S. Eliot – an alumnus of Harvard University, is alleged to have once said, “Good poets borrow, great poets steal.” For any designer in this world to make claims of novelty would take great hubris, which is unfortunately often the case in architecture. One could say that Eladio DiEste and G&K in fact copied the serpentine brick walls in the gardens of the University of Virginia by the American Thomas Jefferson (not to be chauvinistic), but this sort of bickering is counterproductive. The fact is that this is an early experiment at the GSD on the capabilities and limitations of robotic fabrication, which happens to have been largely done by first year architecture students in their free time. The real question here should be, if a fledgling group of students with a new (to them) technology, and a limited budget can do this in a few weeks, what could be done with more experience, time and money? I suspect far more than some petty wall installations, even if with all due respect they are in Venice.

]]> By: everlasting_spring http://www.dezeen.com/2009/05/11/on-the-brinck-at-graduate-school-of-design-harvard-university/comment-page-1/#comment-266056 everlasting_spring Fri, 15 May 2009 08:07:17 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2009/05/11/on-the-brinck-at-graduate-school-of-design-harvard-university/#comment-266056 How many times do you have to voice your misguided blog-o-sphere notions of what constitutes the "new" in order to feel vindicated. This boils down to some sort of academic inferiority complex vis a vis Harvard on the part of Dezeen readers and the fact that none of them get to play with a bloody robot. This project must have been very educational for the students involved, even if only to get a taste of the potential applications of robotics to design and in working at 1:1 scale. I like when Dezeen has posts about work going on in academic environments. Nice work GSD. Please keep this up. How many times do you have to voice your misguided blog-o-sphere notions of what constitutes the “new” in order to feel vindicated.

This boils down to some sort of academic inferiority complex vis a vis Harvard on the part of Dezeen readers and the fact that none of them get to play with a bloody robot.

This project must have been very educational for the students involved, even if only to get a taste of the potential applications of robotics to design and in working at 1:1 scale.

I like when Dezeen has posts about work going on in academic environments. Nice work GSD.

Please keep this up.

]]> By: m of http://www.dezeen.com/2009/05/11/on-the-brinck-at-graduate-school-of-design-harvard-university/comment-page-1/#comment-265944 m of Thu, 14 May 2009 22:33:07 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2009/05/11/on-the-brinck-at-graduate-school-of-design-harvard-university/#comment-265944 relax people, there are a lot of idea clouds floating around in the air, and also in the water, in the dark and in the bright..... who didnt do anything in their life, only to find out in a couple of years that someone was there before them doing the same or similiar.....?????? let them do it, good exercise.....you dont make money with it, but later maybe with the ability and experience you collect by going for a challenging task... the wall is nice, also the ETH wall, dont forget, also the CONTRIBUTION of the students, not always just copy paste names of their professors....the credits always go to the profs.... buuuh, juhuu & a ha relax people,

there are a lot of idea clouds floating around in the air, and also in the water, in the dark and in the bright…..

who didnt do anything in their life, only to find out in a couple of years that someone was there before them doing the same or similiar…..??????

let them do it, good exercise…..you dont make money with it, but later maybe with the ability and experience you collect by going for a challenging task…

the wall is nice, also the ETH wall, dont forget, also the CONTRIBUTION of the students, not always just copy paste names of their professors….the credits always go to the profs….

buuuh, juhuu & a ha

]]> By: tonyl http://www.dezeen.com/2009/05/11/on-the-brinck-at-graduate-school-of-design-harvard-university/comment-page-1/#comment-265900 tonyl Thu, 14 May 2009 17:49:00 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2009/05/11/on-the-brinck-at-graduate-school-of-design-harvard-university/#comment-265900 geez...people have been doing this for years...douglas cardinal actually made buildings, instead of art installations, using this principle...and architects before Cardinal have done this too...the only difference is using a robot - which doesn't really add anything to the process imo... geez…people have been doing this for years…douglas cardinal actually made buildings, instead of art installations, using this principle…and architects before Cardinal have done this too…the only difference is using a robot – which doesn’t really add anything to the process imo…

]]> By: yimyim http://www.dezeen.com/2009/05/11/on-the-brinck-at-graduate-school-of-design-harvard-university/comment-page-1/#comment-265824 yimyim Thu, 14 May 2009 11:33:51 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2009/05/11/on-the-brinck-at-graduate-school-of-design-harvard-university/#comment-265824 hey give them a break...they are american afterall ;) hey give them a break…they are american afterall ;)

]]> By: evilgenius http://www.dezeen.com/2009/05/11/on-the-brinck-at-graduate-school-of-design-harvard-university/comment-page-1/#comment-265698 evilgenius Thu, 14 May 2009 00:52:23 +0000 http://www.dezeen.com/2009/05/11/on-the-brinck-at-graduate-school-of-design-harvard-university/#comment-265698 not to mention that the form itself is very richard serra-ish. not to mention that the form itself is very richard serra-ish.

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