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	<title>Comments on: The Toaster Project by Thomas Thwaites</title>
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		<title>By: chrisR</title>
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		<dc:creator>chrisR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok so we realize making a toaster is really hard and wasteful..... now what do we do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok so we realize making a toaster is really hard and wasteful&#8230;.. now what do we do?</p>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 00:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its so true about this project not seeing the light of day if not for the source..
Gotta feed the beast.
its still pretty good however, and the documentation is the biggest pile of &#039;support&#039; i have ever seen. I think doing all of that research to justify your desire to fuckaround and have fun is great and makes you elite and better then kids doing the exact same thing  only better in places like Detroit or Berlin, Keep it up.
Oh and by the way, you will more then likely be working for those kids someday, cause they didnt need permission to fuckaround and make cool shit, they just did it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its so true about this project not seeing the light of day if not for the source..<br />
Gotta feed the beast.<br />
its still pretty good however, and the documentation is the biggest pile of &#8217;support&#8217; i have ever seen. I think doing all of that research to justify your desire to fuckaround and have fun is great and makes you elite and better then kids doing the exact same thing  only better in places like Detroit or Berlin, Keep it up.<br />
Oh and by the way, you will more then likely be working for those kids someday, cause they didnt need permission to fuckaround and make cool shit, they just did it.</p>
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		<title>By: duff</title>
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		<dc:creator>duff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 12:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s great that schools now encourage students to be critical of design, manufacturing and consumerism. Whilst it doesn&#039;t really offer any answers, the project still has value as a study on the design and manufacturing process and all the parties involved. I&#039;d love to see more of the research and info that substantiates the fun/making bit, and I think an investigation on a macro/micro scale like this could provide useful intelligence for anybody wanting to have a stab at offering alternative or revised methods of producing goods.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s great that schools now encourage students to be critical of design, manufacturing and consumerism. Whilst it doesn&#8217;t really offer any answers, the project still has value as a study on the design and manufacturing process and all the parties involved. I&#8217;d love to see more of the research and info that substantiates the fun/making bit, and I think an investigation on a macro/micro scale like this could provide useful intelligence for anybody wanting to have a stab at offering alternative or revised methods of producing goods.</p>
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		<title>By: asdfghjkl</title>
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		<dc:creator>asdfghjkl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice project. Some things don&#039;t need to come out of the sketch book - this one does  - and did. It makes people think. Which is why it was made. 


oh - and:

Cliff Says: 
I stand by my comment… all too well supported by what comes out of RCA… a line of spoilt kids with questionable tallent yet attitude much greater.


You really don&#039;t know what you are on about. The RCA fees are capped the same as any other national college / university. That is - they are exactly the same as say Manchester / Brighton / Galsgow etc.   

The wierd reality is that if you go to some rubbishy private college you can pay three times the tuition fees - but then you are guaranteed entry. So the idea that the &#039;rich spoilt kids&#039; go here is wrong. It&#039;s actually just harder to get in due to the massive numbers applying and the exceptional quality of competition.  

I think you might have some completely unfounded chip on your shoulder. Perhaps best to reapply next year?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice project. Some things don&#8217;t need to come out of the sketch book &#8211; this one does  &#8211; and did. It makes people think. Which is why it was made. </p>
<p>oh &#8211; and:</p>
<p>Cliff Says:<br />
I stand by my comment… all too well supported by what comes out of RCA… a line of spoilt kids with questionable tallent yet attitude much greater.</p>
<p>You really don&#8217;t know what you are on about. The RCA fees are capped the same as any other national college / university. That is &#8211; they are exactly the same as say Manchester / Brighton / Galsgow etc.   </p>
<p>The wierd reality is that if you go to some rubbishy private college you can pay three times the tuition fees &#8211; but then you are guaranteed entry. So the idea that the &#8216;rich spoilt kids&#8217; go here is wrong. It&#8217;s actually just harder to get in due to the massive numbers applying and the exceptional quality of competition.  </p>
<p>I think you might have some completely unfounded chip on your shoulder. Perhaps best to reapply next year?</p>
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		<title>By: oscar</title>
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		<dc:creator>oscar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is excellent work. Provoke a debate. Real experimentations, with conclusions.
I love it. Want more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is excellent work. Provoke a debate. Real experimentations, with conclusions.<br />
I love it. Want more.</p>
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		<title>By: Cat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I first saw this project i thought &#039;what a lot of wank&#039; but after reading the text and other peoples comments I agree it does have some purpose, and well done to Thomas for making his point heard. 

BUT I do still agree a little with Max and Cliff...I have liked very little of what I have seen come out of the RCA, I wish we could see more design like Min-Kyu Choi&#039;s folding plug, and less of the bullshit.

You still couldn&#039;t pay me to eat toast out of that thing though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I first saw this project i thought &#8216;what a lot of wank&#8217; but after reading the text and other peoples comments I agree it does have some purpose, and well done to Thomas for making his point heard. </p>
<p>BUT I do still agree a little with Max and Cliff&#8230;I have liked very little of what I have seen come out of the RCA, I wish we could see more design like Min-Kyu Choi&#8217;s folding plug, and less of the bullshit.</p>
<p>You still couldn&#8217;t pay me to eat toast out of that thing though.</p>
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		<title>By: toby</title>
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		<dc:creator>toby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>love it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>love it.</p>
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		<title>By: Indi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course,  if you just have a fire  . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course,  if you just have a fire  . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously... I just don´t understand artists... if they think that this is art or some kind of expression, well, there are tastes for everyone, but to spend arduous hours to make this kind of conclusion, well, no more to say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously&#8230; I just don´t understand artists&#8230; if they think that this is art or some kind of expression, well, there are tastes for everyone, but to spend arduous hours to make this kind of conclusion, well, no more to say.</p>
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		<title>By: Joris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For all the continentals who would like to see the Toaster and meet Thomas Thwaites: The Toaster Project will be presented at V2_’s Test_Lab event in Rotterdam - the Netherlands,  July 9. http://www.v2.nl/events/test_lab-what-crisis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For all the continentals who would like to see the Toaster and meet Thomas Thwaites: The Toaster Project will be presented at V2_’s Test_Lab event in Rotterdam &#8211; the Netherlands,  July 9. <a href="http://www.v2.nl/events/test_lab-what-crisis" rel="nofollow">http://www.v2.nl/events/test_lab-what-crisis</a></p>
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