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	<title>Comments on: Braamcamp Freire Secondary School by CVDB Arquitectos</title>
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		<title>By: Marin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2013 21:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Goes to show how important getting the lighting design right is. This project would be so much better if warm white (3000k) lamps were used. The convention of using cool white (4000k) lamps in commercial, educational spaces does not work well with all that grey concrete.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goes to show how important getting the lighting design right is. This project would be so much better if warm white (3000k) lamps were used. The convention of using cool white (4000k) lamps in commercial, educational spaces does not work well with all that grey concrete.  </p>
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		<title>By: majkelecek</title>
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		<dc:creator>majkelecek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2013 12:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s great. As far as creativity is concerned - what do you think is more stimulating: subtle concrete texture or standardised smooth white surfaces?  
 
I think the colours stand out much more than if it was all painted and lively - which can be quite overwhelming sometimes.  
  
It&#039;s hard to say what effect this would actually have on young minds but I wouldn&#039;t judge it too harshly and too fast. And I think it&#039;s far less anonymous than a contemporary glazed building would be.  
  
As far as context is concerned, how many references does each building actually have to make to things like the coastal location and heritage? How explicit would you like those things to be?  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s great. As far as creativity is concerned &#8211; what do you think is more stimulating: subtle concrete texture or standardised smooth white surfaces?  </p>
<p>I think the colours stand out much more than if it was all painted and lively &#8211; which can be quite overwhelming sometimes.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard to say what effect this would actually have on young minds but I wouldn&#8217;t judge it too harshly and too fast. And I think it&#8217;s far less anonymous than a contemporary glazed building would be.  </p>
<p>As far as context is concerned, how many references does each building actually have to make to things like the coastal location and heritage? How explicit would you like those things to be?  </p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 05:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI: &quot;You design a school just like you design a prison,&quot; has been a maxim in architecture schools for decades. Thus, frequently, they are designed by the same architecture firms.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI: &#8220;You design a school just like you design a prison,&#8221; has been a maxim in architecture schools for decades. Thus, frequently, they are designed by the same architecture firms.  </p>
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		<title>By: Romain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Romain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 14:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I may have been harsh and I certainly didn&#039;t mean to associate the school with Berliner Industrial Rock (thank you for pushing me to look it up by the way). Although I will admit that the school would be a nice setting for a punk music video.  
  
As for culture, I&#039;m afraid I&#039;ll have to take a post-modernist stance on the question: in this context I find eclecticism to be preferable to international uniformity. 
  
Should this school reflect Pontinha&#039;s identity as one of the strongholds of the Carnation Revolution (which essentially freed Portugal from the grip of the Estado Novo )? Should it reference the district&#039;s coastal geography? Should it quote Portugal&#039;s Moorish heritage? Wouldn&#039;t children benefit from such references?   
  
I don&#039;t claim to have any answers. I&#039;m just submitting to you the fact that modernism tends to forgo these questions in order to pursue what some architects hold as universal truths. It can be kind of alienating.  
  
Of course, modernism applies to public infrastructure: Brasilia could only be built in the international style so as to better reflect the city&#039;s role as the political heart of a vast and multicultural country.    
  
As for humanising the architectural program, I find the original school to be more in keeping with modernist theories (see Alfred Roth and his school pavilions) while the extension presented above is just an aesthetic quote. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I may have been harsh and I certainly didn&#8217;t mean to associate the school with Berliner Industrial Rock (thank you for pushing me to look it up by the way). Although I will admit that the school would be a nice setting for a punk music video.  </p>
<p>As for culture, I&#8217;m afraid I&#8217;ll have to take a post-modernist stance on the question: in this context I find eclecticism to be preferable to international uniformity. </p>
<p>Should this school reflect Pontinha&#8217;s identity as one of the strongholds of the Carnation Revolution (which essentially freed Portugal from the grip of the Estado Novo )? Should it reference the district&#8217;s coastal geography? Should it quote Portugal&#8217;s Moorish heritage? Wouldn&#8217;t children benefit from such references?   </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t claim to have any answers. I&#8217;m just submitting to you the fact that modernism tends to forgo these questions in order to pursue what some architects hold as universal truths. It can be kind of alienating.  </p>
<p>Of course, modernism applies to public infrastructure: Brasilia could only be built in the international style so as to better reflect the city&#8217;s role as the political heart of a vast and multicultural country.    </p>
<p>As for humanising the architectural program, I find the original school to be more in keeping with modernist theories (see Alfred Roth and his school pavilions) while the extension presented above is just an aesthetic quote. </p>
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		<title>By: Johan van Helden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johan van Helden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 13:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this an ideal environment where children can discover and develop their social behavior and skills? Is it built to really support those children? Looks more like a parking garage to me, with some bright colours to cheer it up and reduse vandalism.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this an ideal environment where children can discover and develop their social behavior and skills? Is it built to really support those children? Looks more like a parking garage to me, with some bright colours to cheer it up and reduse vandalism.  </p>
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