Herzog & de Meuron's Pierre de Meuron and architecture critic Charles Jencks swap roles in this panel discussion at the World Architecture Festival 2017 in Berlin. Watch the livestream here from 5.15pm UK time.
The livestream has now ended, but you can still watch the talk in full above or on Dezeen's Facebook page.
In this panel discussion Jencks will take on the role of the architect and present the Herzog & de Meuron's Elbphilharmonie concert hall for Hamburg, while de Meuron will adopt the role of architectural critic.
Dezeen is media partners for World Architecture Festival 2017, which this year takes place in Berlin in conjunction with the Inside festival of interior design.
We will be broadcasting a number of talks and seminars over the next two days from both events – including talks by Kim Cook and Terry Farrell – as well as conducting video interviews with the winners.
World Architecture Festival takes place from 15-17 November 2017 at Arena Berlin. Take a look at the full programme.